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later. it's time for everybody to step up their game. >> it's way too early -- >> it's "morning joe." but stick around because steve kornacki and kate snow pick up the coverage right now. we will see you tomorrow morning with a super tuesday special of "morning joe." good morning. i'm steve kornacki. live here in new york and we are on the eve of an extraordinary day in american politics. less than 24 hours away now from the start of super tuesday. 2016. the first polls are going to open at 5:00 a.m. eastern time tomorrow. this might be the most important day of this entire presidential primary season. when the race truly goes national. nearly 600 delegates up for grabs on the republican side.
almost 900 on the democratic side. donald trump will be looking for that knockout blow. a new poll shows he may be peaking at exactly the right time. a brand new national poll from cnn shows him with an astonishing 33 point lead over the rest of the field, nearly at 50%. this with five candidates still in the race. that is more than all the rest of the candidates combined. that is donald trump's standing in the newest poll this morning. is it any surprise that things are getting nasty out there. >> marco is a lightweight, but, guys, they hate him in florida. he can't be elected dog catcher in florida. >> he doesn't sweat because his pores are clogged from the spray tan he uses. >> it's easy to talk about making america great again. you could even print that on a baseball cap. >> donald is not going to make america great, he's going to make america orange. >> i will support the republican nominee, period, however, i don't believe donald is going to be the republican nominee. >> have you seen his hands?
they are like this. and you know what they say about men with small hands. you can't trust them. >> i could do anything and they still love me. do you know what, you could do anything and i'm still going to love you, too. believe me. believe me. >> and this hour we are going to look at all of the key contests on the board. tomorrow nearly a dozen in each party and also the make or break races for all the candidates who are still left. at the top of that list the lone star state, texas, and that's where we find my colleague kate snow who will be joining me throughout the hour from the harris county smoke house in houston with a closer look at this must win state for ted cruz. if ted cruz can't pick up the lion's share of the state's 155 delegates tomorrow could be the end of the road for him. also ahead this hour hillary clinton scoring a blow out win in south carolina over the weekend. is that going to make her
unstoppable in the south tomorrow? we will look at that. as well as bernie sanders and his campaign as he hits 11 states in seven days, trying desperately now to right the ship on super tuesday and to stay in contention on the democratic side. but we are going to begin this morning with the republicans. jacob rascon is with donald trump in virginia. hallie jackson is on the road with ted cruz in texas and gabe gutierrez is with marco rubio in georgia. jacob, let me start with you. the controversy of the moment with donald trump, yesterday he was asked about david duke, the former klansman, he was asked about the ku klux klan. he gave a very vague answer, really a nonanswer. clarifying it, trying maybe a little bit this morning. what is the latest on that, jacob? >> reporter: steve, the people here gathered at rat ford university, a lot of them young, a lot of them from rat ford university, even some from a high school, they have been here for a few hours and they are talking about david duke and i asked them, so what does this
mean to you? how important is it that he didn't come out stronger against the leader and what they say really is that, look, he had already disavowed him, but they are disappointed that he, they say, missed an opportunity. many of the people i talked to even first in line say, look, he knows how to come out against people strong, we know that, he's come out so strong as he would say against so many politicians and others. why did he not come out with a knockout and really very strongly disavow this person, david duke? so they are a little disappointed but they say they don't think it will make a world of difference or any difference at all. here is what he said this morning on the "today" show. take a listen. >> i don't mind disavowing anybody and i disavowed david duke and i disavowed him the day before at a major news conference which is surprising because he was at the major news conference, cnn was at the major news conference and they heard me very easily disavow david duke. now i go and i sit down again, i
have a lousy earpiece that is provided by them and frankly he talked about groups. he also talked about groups and i have no problem with disavowing groups but i'd at least like to know who they are. >> so this was new of course he's talking about the bad earpiece. we know how that works, that is a possibility, but still he heard the name david duke, he of course knew who he was, i was at that press conference a few days prior where he was asked about it, he said, look, i disavow david duke. why did he not come out stronger? each some of his biggest supporters here first in line talking about it, but again, they don't believe that that will make a big difference because they say they're in it for donald trump because he has a backbone. i've heard that word several times. he has the backbone to go up against washington. they care most about that. steve. >> jacob rascon in radford, virginia, with donald trump. thanks for that. let's turn to nbc's hall kwlee jackson, she is in san
antonio, that is where ted cruz is holding one of three events in texas today. hallie, here he is ted cruz back in his home state on the eve of super tuesday. obviously texas is a must win state for him but even if he wins his home state is there a bigger picture strategy that will get him back into contention here? >> yeah, the goal, steve, you look at texas, ted cruz has to win here, there's a sense among the campaign that they will do something here. if you look at the polling, our latest nbc news polling it shows he is up by double digits over donald trump, 39% to 26%. that is consistent with what we've seen in other polls as well. it doesn't appear to be an outlier. the question, though, is let's say he wins texas, is that enough, where else could he potentially win? just look at his travel schedule, he has spent a lot of time in arkansas, he's spent time in oklahoma. these are places where the campaign feels like they could make plays for maybe the win or for at least pulling out a lot of delegates away from donald trump given that this is sort of
a proportional moment versus the march 15th states. we look ahead to his strategy moving forward the real question is his strength in the south, particularly when it comes to those true conservatives, those very conservative voters, all along from the very, very beginning his campaign has said their strategy was to dominate the south, do well in the sec primary states and coalesce conservatives around cruz to move forward and take on whoever would be in that more traditional establishment lane. thing since that strategy was laid out months ago over the summer trump happened and it's blown up the ways that this race moved. you have the trump lane, maybe the more traditional establishment lane and the more conservative lane and they are splitting and taking votes away from each other. there isn't room at this point in time for keeme for conservat coalesce around ted cruz. his campaign is looking forward past super tuesday. evening they will do well enough
to move on to those march 15th states and beyond. >> i bet every campaign could probably say that at this point, we had our strategy, we had it all mapped out with the voters we needed and then trump happened. >> and i will tell you, steve, i was with ted cruz back in august when he was doing a bus tour through these sec primary states, these tourn states that at the time months ago nobody else was paying attention to, candidates were focused on iowa and new hampshire, but cruz was barn storming through the south even back then which i think is a real indication of just how important tomorrow is for him. he has said it again and again. he is not trying to play the expectations game. ted cruz is basically saying, hey, most important day of my campaign is tomorrow night. if he does not do well it will be nearly impossible for him to backtrack from that. if he does do well he says i told you i was going to do t i did it now we will move forward. >> hallie jackson in san sanity know with ted cruz. now we will head over to atlanta and that's where gabe gutierrez
is today. marco rubio is also going to be there in a few hours, that will be his second state in a four-state swing today. so, gabe, we saw this sort of shift in strategy after that debate from marco rubio. he's trying to play the donald trump game now, he's trying to match insult for insult and play at donald trump's level. how is that going do they think? >> good morning. picking up on the conversation you were just having with hallie, yes, the marco rubio campaign remember a few weeks ago when rubio and his team were saying that we don't want to get into a fight with other republicans, that we just want to point out that we are best positioned to take on hillary clinton and bernie sanders. they repeated that over and over again, but the calculus has changed, now they are going directly after donald trump for the last few days since thursday night's debate it's gotten increasingly more personal even. marco rubio as he played in the opening part of the broadcast is now going after donald trump's spray tan, even making a joke about the size of his hands. really the crowds at his events
are really eating that up. they say that while they don't like to see this republican race go in the gutter, they do feel that someone has to stand up to donald trump. let me play you some portion of what rubio had to say branding trump a con artist yesterday. take a listen. >> we have never been a nation that places our faith in people. we place our faith in an all mighty god and in the constitution of the united states. >> the time has come to remove the mask and unveil him for what he is. donald trump is nothing but a first rate con artist who is trying to carry out the ultimate con. >> and that is a message that rubio's campaign is repeating over and over again. trying to label donald trump as a con artist. they have already apparently concluded that while they do want to talk about substantive policy the only way to do that at this point is to join the circus, so to speak, and get to donald trump's level and really
attack him head on. now, the question will be will this have -- have any impact on voters on tuesday? now, marco rubio has a steep hill to climb, he is not -- he is polling way behind donald trump in virtually all the super tuesday states but his campaign feels like they could make some headway in states like virginia and minnesota. today he is in four states, has five rallies here in atlanta they hope that they can pick up some suburban voters and perhaps pick up some delegates throughout super tuesday and then look ahead to that crucial contest on march 15th. marco rubio's home state of florida. steve. >> all right. gabe gutierrez with the rubio campaign. thanks very much. now to donald trump and to that story that dominated much of the weekend. his seem i thinkly shifting positions on david duke. someone who's support he disavowed on friday before seeming to take that back on sunday. here is what trump said and how msnbc's joe scarborough sounded this morning. >> will you unequivocally
condemn david duke and say that you don't want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election? >> well, just so you understand i don't know anything about david duke. okay? i don't know anything about what you're even talk being with white supremacy or white supremacists. so i don't know. i mean, i don't know, did he endorse me or what's going on? because, you know, i know nothing about david duke. >> that's disqualifying right there. it's breathtaking. that is disqualifying right there. is he really so stupid that he thinks southerners aren't offended by the ku klux klan and david duke? is he rlg so ignorant of southern voters that he thinks this is the way to their heart? >> and trump took another shot at diffusing the controversy this morning, ended up playing his failure to disavow david duke on problems with his earpiece. i want to bring in hugh hue wit. hugh, thanks for taking a few minutes.
you heard what trump had to say yesterday on this issue. if you see the quotes this morning he is say it was a bad earpiece cnn provided me, didn't fully understand what i said. do you agree with joe scarborough's assessment there that the comments we heard on sunday would be disqualifying for a presidential candidate? >> i don't think anything is disqualifying in this year. you start with racism and end with global warming and everyone wins something in between. i put the kkk and david duke comment in a string of bad days for donald trump. he had the worst run of the campaign beginning with thursday night's debate which was bad for him, then he had the trump mortgage come up today in the washington post, trump university come up, questions about his taxes not being released, i watched senator cruz on abc suggesting he had mob ties in his taxes, questioning his generosity. now i think you see some of the other campaigns trying to tempt him into skipping the march 10th senate which would be an admission of weakness on the part of donald trump. so right now trump has got to stay tough and stay in that
lane. i'm reminded, steve, and you may recall this as well, four days before the 2000 election, maybe five, the gore campaign dropped george w. bush a dui on him and he was six points out in natural polls at that moment. over four days the crows sifd impact was to significant to win al gore the popular vote though not the electoral college vote. you may see the sim thing happening in the he stretch of the next three weeks, trump mortgage, trump university, the taxes, the kkk, duke, all of that comes together to corrode what is a commanding lead. tomorrow night will matter a lot. it's a delegate hunt. i don't think the wins matter so much the delegate total after march 15th. i still think we're going in open convention in cleveland, i'd book your hotel room for two weeks. >> i have it kd booked right now for four days but i've dreamed of doing the brokered convention. >> not brokered, open.
>> open or contested. let me ask you strategically if you are a republican who wants to stop donald trump at this point what is the best for you? is the best case that kasich still in, cruz still in, rubio, that they are all still in, or is the best case there is some consolidation behind rubio or cruz or one of these other candidates. >> i think you are going to see all the candidates say i can beat hillary. hillary had a terrible week on the server story, general hagen would say he would be i'm bearsed if hurt form who is tiles broke our server. she's got a broken leg on intelligence. you will see rubio and cruz and kasich saying we can win the presidency, the supreme court vacancy. we cannot risk a donald trump candidacy. that's their best argument going forward. donald trump will say i will beat the living daylights out of hillary clinton on the server and on her husband and on everything else. so it's an electability issue at
this point and they are all going to be stressing electability. now, watch for some jets taking off to meet different places. if ted cruz gets together with marco rubio and they decide that they are going to be one ticket somehow or another or if marco or ted get together with john kasich you could see a lot happen in this race in the next three weeks to consolidate because there is a very significant #nevertrump movement. i will support the republican nominee. but i note that donald trump has hit a rough patch just as that begins to emerge. it's such an interesting race. i'm unwilling to say that anything is a given because nothing has been thus far and nothing really is. >> you mentioned it there, you are on the record and you have a new piece talking about why you would still support donald trump if he is the republican nominee but it's note ablng this morning ben sasse republican senator from nebraska put out a statement on facebook last night saying i cannot support donald trump. i sincerely hope we select one of the other gop candidates but
if donald trump ends up as the gop nominee conservatives will need to find a third option. that's a republican u.s. senator saying i'm looking for a third choice if donald trump is the nominee of the republican party. do you expect more republican elected officials will be speaking up and saying that? >> no. but senator sasse is a very sensible man. he made quite an impact in the senate. very smart fellow. has deep christian convictions that have led him to this conclusion he can't support donald trump. maybe trump per suedes him and showing him a different side. i don't know. the first three reasons i support donald trump over hillary clinton are the vacancy on the supreme court and the likelihood of a couple more over the next four years. if you lose the supreme court republicans have to figure out if you lose the supreme court you lose hobby lobby, 5-4 decision, you lose the hallert case and mcdonald case defending gun rights. you would lose -- citizens
united a free speech case. so i think at the end of the day whoever the nominee the party will rally to that nominee. i don't think that we have any idea who that nominee is, though. donald trump is leading in the o polls right now, he has had this terrible stretch and events matter. i actually think that march 10th debate before the second super tuesday donald has got do come in there and lay these things to rest and answer the sasse-like things. i should mention for fairness ben sasse said that but jeff sessions came out and endorsed donald trump yesterday. so on the one hand you have sasse of nebraska saying i will never support donald trump, you have sessions of alabama saying i'm endorsing him. you had the christie endorsement. >> right. >> donald trump has a lot of bad things going against him but a lot of good stuff going for him. too hard to say at this point. >> we are starting to see those trump endorsements that were allusive for him for all those months. thanks for taking a few minutes. >> my pleasure.
we have much more ahead this hour on this special split edition of "msnbc live" from new york and houston, texas. we have watching dueling clinton live events this hour, her and his rally about to get under way in massachusetts and texas. texas is where we find kate snow. >> hi, again, steve. hillary clinton is in springfield, massachusetts. former president bill clinton is right here in houston just about a half hour from where i'm sitting here at harris county smoke house. we will talk about the fight for super delegates among the democrats and the importance of texas all coming up. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. we got another one. i have an orc-o-gram for an "owen." that's me. ♪ you should hire stacy drew. ♪ ♪ she wants to change the world with you. ♪ ♪ she can program jet engines to talk and such. ♪ ♪ her biggest weakness is she cares too much. ♪ thank you. my friend reallyants a job at ge. mine too. ♪ i'm a wise elf from a far off shire. ♪ and sanjay patel is who you should hire. ♪ thank you.
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no question secretary clinton won that state and she won it big, but i'm in minnesota now, i think we've got a real shot at machine, i think we have a shot at colorado, oklahoma, massachusetts and vermont. so we are looking to the future not looking back. >> welcome back to msnbc. looking at the latest national poll hillary clinton is up 55 to 38% over bernie sanders. poised potentially for some very big wins in the south tomorrow night is hillary clinton. msnbc's kasie hunt is covering the bernie sanders campaign. she joins us live in rochester, minnesota, where the senator will be holding a rally later this morning. he said it, decimated is the word to describe what happened in south carolina on saturday. i guess the worst news for bernie sanders is that does not bode well for these southern states that will be voting tomorrow for him. what is the path forward for this campaign right now? >> some really tough results for him, steve, after that big win in new hampshire to go into a loss in nevada and that
overwhelming loss in south carolina. now to be facing down super tuesday where we expect hillary clinton could potentially clean up and come out the presumptive democratic front runner -- excuse me, presumptive democratic nominee. bernie sanders isn't ready to give up quite yet. >> on super tuesday the state that is going to be voting for the most delegates is the great state of texas. >> bernie sanders doesn't want super tuesday to be the end of his road against hillary clin n clinton. ♪ this land was made for you and me ♪ what do you want from the democratic party at the convention? >> to nominate bernie sanders as president. >> so the 74-year-old senator hit the trail and the tarmac, 11 states in seven days all with reporters trailing behind. >> this is the first press bus of the day.
there will be many. we are on our way to the columbia airport to board air bernie. >> right now we are looking at super tuesday. you will have 11 states up, after that there are a lot more states. we are going to contest all of these states. i think we are going to win a number of them, we're feeling very good. >> 500 miles later. >> thank you, kansas, and missour missouri. >> less than two hours after that -- >> we're leaving kansas city for oklahoma. >> i think we can win here in oklahoma. >> trying to enjoy the sights along the way. >> if you're bernie sanders and you are in tulsa, oklahoma, where else would you go but the woody guthrie me museum. >> the crowds that greet him are full of young people. >> i almost cried. >> and those crowds are often mostly white. sanders'ity rear are taking him to places like massachusetts, vermont and machiinnesota where has a better place to win. but he's clearly under pressure,
upping his attacks on hillary clinton and some say violating his pledge against negative campaigning. >> you get $225,000 for a speak to goldman sachs you've got to be really good. >> sometimes flashing his trademark impatience. >> okay. thank you. thank you very much. >> the schedule taking its toll. >> last flight of the night. 9:00 eastern time. wheels down in ohio after midnight. >> no rest for the weary or at least not for a man who wants to prove to his doubters that they're wrong. so of course the sanders campaign now saying that they want to raise $40 million in february. they've already raised 36 of that. of course, that's the number that will let them keep this campaign going if they want to, it's a little different from some campaigns in the past, all of those small donors driving this, but if clinton does pick up incredible momentum out of super tuesday there's going to be a lot more pressure on sanders to bow out and let the democrats fight the general
election. steve. >> all right. kasie hunt in rochester, minnesota. thank you for that. from the current vermonter running for president we now turn to the last vermonter to run for president, howard dean. he is a hillary clinton supporter. >> let me ask you this. we just watched this piece on the road with bernie sanders. at one level you marvel at the energy it takes to go through that. you've been there, though. when your campaign when it started to go bad for you after iowa, after new hampshire in 2004 you kept in it for a few weeks there. looking at bernie sanders right now what is that experience like when the losses start to mount up and you're still out there doing these 20-hour days. >> well, it's definitely tougher, there is no question that it's hard to keep up your spirits, but, you know, he is not out of this yet. i'm for hillary and i hope she is going to be the next president of the united states and i think she will be, but i do think that bernie has added a lot to the campaign and created issues that need to be talked
about or talked about issues that need to be -- need to the talked about in a campaign. that's what he has done. after today it's going to be much, much tougher and the minority vote is a huge problem because a democrat cannot win the presidency of the united states without very substantial hispanic and african-american support. but, you know, it's to the over. i expect bernie to take this all the way to the convention, even if he knows he is not going to win the nomination because he cares deeply about these issues. >> you mentioned the african-american vote. everybody expected hillary clinton was going to do well with black voters in south carolina. we're talking about, though, from these exit polls winning close to 90% of the black vote. i don't think anybody expected it would be that overwhelming. the thing about that that surprised me the most is that bernie sanders recognized months ago this was a problem for his campaign and really had tried to incorporate racial justice themes into his campaign. why do you think he failed as badly as he did to win over really any black support in south carolina? >> you know, bill and hillary
clinton have been comfortable with african-americans for a very long time. they come from a state with a very substantial african-american population. you know, vermont has and a african-american population of less than 4% or something like that, although they once did put me over the top after i signed the civil unions bill, i won by 238 votes and that was african-american vote. i mean, it does matter in vermont it's just a different -- it's just a comfort factor that i think black and hispanic voters have with the family that's been in politics for a long time and delivered for them time and time again. >> all right. howard dean, former vermont governor. you won the vermont primary back in 2004, we do know bernie sanders is favored to do the same tomorrow. if nothing else he could take that state. thanks for joining us. after the break we will turn to my colleague kate snow live from the harris county smoke house in houston, texas. that sounds pretty good. the slogan on their website is saddle up. we are all saddling up for super tuesday tomorrow.
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welcome back. i'm kate snow live in houston, texas. ted cruz is banking on his home state of texas to help give him the edge in his battle with marco rubio to become the main opposition candidate to front runner donald trump. the latest nbc news "wall street journal" marist poll shows ted cruz leading the pack in texas at 39%. he's followed by trump at 26% and rubio at 16%. joining me now msnbc contributor and university of texas professor victoria did he francisco and abby listening ton is live in fort worth. we have the whole state covered,
ladies. vicki, let me start with you, we're talking about texas. the largest super tuesday state. on the republican side 155 delegates. if ted cruz were to get more than 50% of the vote he would get all those delegates but otherwise they split them up. how critical is texas for ted cruz? >> well, kate, as we like to say here everything is bigger in texas including the delegate count. for the gop one-eighth of all the delegates are at stake here tomorrow. now, with ted cruz we would think in a world without donald trump that he would be above 50%. this was supposed to be a cake walk for him. this is his home state and also texas is a very conservative state, has a strong tea party wisconsin what propelled ted cruz, however, we know now that he only has about a 6 to 8 point lead depending on the poll and this is worrisome because in the next day or two, actually in the next day donald trump could inch
up and that is going to affect the delegate count by congressional district. i think right now as we all would imagine ted cruz is biting his nails in terms of how many delegates he will come away with. he should have run away with it but then donald trump happened. >> yeah. ted cruz is going to be here in the state today. abby, you can see, though, who is competing when you look at the ads running on tv. this morning i saw a testimonial ad from the governor of the state who is supporting ted cruz, i saw it three times in one hour and then i saw a trump attack ad against ted cruz twice in the same hour. it really does sort of feel like we're down to ted cruz versus donald trump here. >> it does in some ways. i think i agree completely with what i just heard, one thing i would point out that some consultants have pointed out is that early voting in texas started two weeks ago and that was a very different moment in the campaign. senator cruz was riding much higher and has since lost momentum. i had a republican consultant say i bet that the early votes
saved him. i don't know. i am agnostic and i agree i am less interested in the margins that i see statewide than the delegate count tomorrow because it's a very complicated allocation system here in this state. >> that's a great point about the early voting. vicki, let's talk about the democrats. in the latest poll showing clinton leading sanders our poll shows 21 points up here in texas over bernie sanders. talk to me about the democratic electorate because there is one here in a red state. how is it different from the rest of the country? >> well, this has always been clinton country here in texas. texas even among democrats is more moderate, more conservative than other democratic states, say a california. so clinton has always counted this as part of her strong hold. now, one important component of the democratic constituency here in texas is the latino vote and there are very deep ties with clinton and the latino vote. we know that among latinos in the latest texas tribute ut poll she was up by about 30 percentage points.
that's going to be very difficult for bernie sanders to make up. he also doesn't have the resources. this is a really big state, very costly media markets and you need a vast ground game. bernie sanders just does not have the resources that a clinton does. and then you add on that comfort that the latino community has with the hillary clinton and it's going to be really tough to overcome come tomorrow. >> vicki and abby, great to see you guys. thanks for being with us. it is the home stretch for our cal perry. he is on day six now of his seven day seven state road trip leading up to super tuesday. he has been through oklahoma, texas, tennessee, alabama and arkansas and today he has made his way to georgia. cal will join us live from the martin luther king jr. national historic site in atlanta up next. my school reunion's coming fast. could be bad. could be a blast.
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chris jansing and cal perry have been traveling the country ahead of super tuesday trying to get to know the vote erts and find out about the issues they're really concerned about as they get ready to hit the polls tomorrow. as their road trip hits its penultimate day we find cal perry in the peach state in atlanta, fast. cal, that's where i was last week. what are you finding in atlanta? >> we are on the road from alabama to georgia. we stopped along the way in montgomery at mrs. b's soul food restaurant, found a church group there. we wanted to find out what was important to them, especially on the heels of hillary clinton's sweeping victory in south carolina. take a listen. >> they look at it as the plaque lives, they look at it as if it's racial profiling. >> what do you think about the republicans running this year? >> oh, i think it is a reality show. it could be really reality
because things that they are doing like in debates and everything it doesn't make sense. i don't think that it should be that way. i don't think that they should have a debate like that. you know, going at each other like that. it's like people do on reality shows and that's -- >> so like if we were to prioritize them, jobs, medical. >> education. >> education. education is number one. >> education is the key to success. if you want to be great you have to get your education to be great. >> education. >> i think education is number one thing i think that's important to our state and our people. the lottery we don't have it in this area therefore we don't get some benefits other areas do. we need strong leadership and we just need money to be able to get resources to our young people. >> if you're going to vote, hands, let's do it that way.
wow. >> trump, everybody says he will be did -- at the same time i don't think he relates to a certain class of people. you know, you don't seem like -- that's who you associate with. he doesn't associate with the lower class i don't think he understands where they're coming from. >> steve, one of the things that you and i have discussed in new york and it's something you have to really come down here and see for yourself is that clinton legacy. she is a known quantity from the clinton family and i think that's probably going to make a dig difference here in the south tomorrow. >> we saw that in those results in south carolina on saturday night. amazing among black voters how well she did. we also got a glimpse in that package you just played for us that some of the food you're getting to enjoy as you travel around the country. for that i want to bring back kate snow. i understand that you both had a
couple food experiences here, maybe a food fight of sorts is starting to break out between the two of you. >> yeah. maybe a little. we've been going back and forth with pictures of what we're eating. >> whose got the best? >> it started innocently enough -- well, it started innocently enough on our team with a slice of apple pie and we upped our game with bar could you and upped it even further. kate, i think you're slightly ahead, i saw recent tweets of some tremendous looking food down there in texas. >> i was at torchy's tacos up in austin and you have got to see this. this is called the texas mix. this is live, this is my breakfast this morning. that's a beef rib, that's bacon, hash browns and a couple of eggs. do you see how large that rib is there? can you see that? we are at the hair russ county smoke house. cal, i don't know, i think we got you beat. >> i have to say actually -- i
think i could beat both of you with my lemon lime emergency packet that i just had during the break to try to ward off a cold. i am jealous, that looks like some delicious food. cal perry, thank you for joining us. cal will be back in the next hour with chris jansing where she is hosting day six of her road trip, this morning live from the university of georgia in athens. go, bulldogs. >> we're going to go to one county here in the lone star state where voters have been able to vote since february 16th, early voting and the turn out has already broken records. msnbc's jacob soboroff talked with poll workers about how they're preparing for tomorrow's big night. he joins me next.
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years ago donald trump began something called trump university. >> okay. so back with you in houston. we are taking a look now at marco rubio, he is in alcoa, tennessee, next knoxville. let's take a listen. >> if you watch the promotional video it is what really got me fired up. in this promotional video donald trump says the following, he says, we are going to hire the best people, we are going to bring in the smartest people and i'm going to teach you how to win and you are going to get tired of winning and all you are going to do is be successful so people signed up for this course. people gave him money, not a vote, they gave him $10,000. when they got there they were told, listen, if you want to make big money -- i just want to make sure that's not trump's plane. it's called hair force one. and so people signed up and they said, if you want to make big
money you have to pay for the $35,000 course and they did and they got nothing. do you know what you got when you graduated trump university? a picture with a cardboard cutout of donald trump. cardboa cutout of trump. that's a bad business practice. that's exactly what he's trying to do to american voters now. he's saying to them, elect me president. i'm going to be the tough guy. donald trump is not a tough guy. his whole live, he's had it given to him. he inherited over $100 million. there's nothing wrong with that, but don't tell me you're a tough guy. he tells them he's going to be tough on illegal immigration, but he hires illegal immigrants to work on trump towers. he was doing this yesterday in alabama, i'm going to fight for the american worker. he tries to beat up on the visa program who brings workers from overseas. guess who is a big user of that program? donald trump. he brings people in from other countries who by the way, are
doing the jobs my parents raised my family doing. on issue after issue, what he's saying to people isn't true. it doesn't match his record. yet somehow, it's gotten to this point. it's called a con job and we're not going to allow the con artist to take control of the party of lincoln and reagan. hiel he can't win, either. that's the other big problem. he is unelectable now. he's -- he refused to criticize the ku klux klan. he's been given three interviews. this morning on the "today" show, he blamed it on a bad ear piece. i don't care how bad the ear piece is. ku klux klan comes through clearly, and he refused to criticize it. how can someone like that be our
nominee? how can the nominee of the republican party of the party of lincoln, the party of reagan, the party of hope and the party of optimism, nominate someone who refuses to criticize the ku klux klan or distance themselves from an avowed racist like david duke. and we can't lose this election. the media, the media knows donald trump can't win. and that is why they're giving him a pass. do you think they don't know all these things about his business record? you think they don't know all these stories. you know what they're waiting for him, for him to be the nominee. they're waiting so they can descend on him like the hounds of hell. they were shred him to pieces and then they'll get hillary clinton elected which is what many of them want anyways. and we cannot allow hillary clinton to be elected. hillary clinton will follow the same policies that barack obama has put in place. and if we stay on the road we are on right now, we are going
to be the first americans that leave their children worse off than themselves. hillary clinton is someone that if she's elected president, may nee to pardon herself after putting classified information on her e-mail server. and hillary clinton is someone who's disqualified from being commander in chief. because she lied to the families of those victims in benghazi. and anyone who does that can never be the commander in chief of the united states of america. we have a chance in this election to go in a different direction from the one we're headed now. it's the direction i'm offering you. it's a direction i ask you to vote for. it's not one that asks you to act on your fears and your anxieties, for i know they are real. it's a direction that asks you
to embrace your hopes and your dreams for a better future. it is a direction that says that we, when i'm president, are going to reembrace the constitution of the united states. when i'm president, for the first time in eight years, you'll have a president that defends your first amendment right to live out the teachings of your faith. for the first time in eight years, you'll have a president that defends your second amendment right to protect yourself and your family. if you vote for me, you'll have a president that understands because of eight years that i spent in florida -- >> that's marco rubio in tennessee. one of the many states up for grabs on super tuesday tomorrow. and also, new out this morning, news in the democratic side. fresh off her overwhelming victory in south carolina this weekend, there is now another major boost for hillary
clinton's campaign, as nbc news is now adding commitments from super delegates across the country to her official delegate tally. in the effect on the race is significant. clinton had led bernie sanders 112-66 in the delegate race. after her victory in south carolina on saturday. now, nbc news is adding over 400 new superdelegates to her total. these superdelegates are elected officials and party leaders who receive automatic delegate slots at this summer's convention and who have publicly pledged their support for clinton. adding those in, that brings clinton's new total delegate count to 519, and that opens up an enormous lead for her over sanders. this, again, according to our nbc estimate. now, it is important to note that these super delegates commitments are not etched in stone. super delegates could still change their minds and decide to support sanders if they want to. that's going to wrap up this
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disavowing the endorsement of former kkk grand wizard david duke, and it's blown up, outraging fellow republicans. >> that's disqualifying right there. it's breathtaking. that is disqualifying. >> is he really so stupid that he thinks southerners aren't offended by the ku klux klan? and david duke? is he really so ignorant of southern voters that he thinks this is the way to their heart? to go neutral. to play switzerland. when you're talking about the klan? and to say he doesn't know enough information about the klan to condemn them, exactly what does donald trump expect to learn? in the next 24 hours about the klan? >> now, of course, early voting has been under way, but it's less than 24 hours before the polls open. donald trump finds himself on the defensive this morning. and on the "today" show, he tried once again to explain his
comments. >> david duke was a member. >> a day before at a major press conference, and i'm saying to myself, how many times do i have to continue to disavow people. the question was asked about david duke and various groups. and i don't know who the groups are. >> the question now is, has donald trump finally crossed a line, or will he demonstrate once again that he's the teflon don? meantime, the level of frat boy humor flying in this election has been as nbc's first read puts it, chaotic, brutal, disturbi disturbing, and still mesmerizing. when you thought it couldn't get any more personal, marco rubio hits trump with this. >> have you seen his hands? they're like this. you know what they say about men with small hands. you can't trust them. >> well, the candidates are crisscrossing the 12 critical
states voting tomorrow, and right now, donald trump is looking at a possible super tuesday sweep in every state except texas. on the democratic side, it's hillary clinton's race to lose. she's been speaking live in springfield, massachusetts. after decimating, that's his words, bernie sanders in south carolina, she's looking to lock this thing down tomorrow night. our reporters are spread all over the country, covering every single twist and turn in this incredible race. let's start with jacob rascon, who is following donald trump's campaign in radford, virginia, ahead of his rally later on today. any sign at all that the trump campaign is rattled by this controversy? >> well, you said it earlier, chris. he's forced to be on the defense at a time when he should be able to do a victory lap of sorts about his big endorsement from a sitting senator. now he's forced to talk about david duke again. i was at that press conference last friday where he said that he did avowed them. but then he was asked again of course on sunday about this same former kkk leader, and many of his supporters.
even some who are standing behind me, were first in line for this rally, say he missed an opportunity to go after the former kkk leader really hard. we know that donald trump can do that. and he just didn't seem to do it. here's what he said. >> will you unequivocally condemn david duke and say you don't want his vote or other white supremacists in the election? >> just so you understand, i don't know anything about david duke. give me a list of the groups and i'll let you know. >> i'm just talking about david duke and the ku klux klan. >> honestly, i don't know david duke. >> so he realized a bit what he did, because immediately after that, he went to his favorite platform, twitter, and tweeted out, remember, i already disavowed him, but it wasn't of course good enough for many of the pundits, and of course, as i said, even some of his supporters. they know that trump knows how to go after whoever he wants to go after. to disavow them or discredit them. and he just failed, it seems, to
do that in that interview. so he spoke, of course, again this morning on "today" show, and he seemed to blame something else, a technical issue. here's what he said there. >> let me tell you, i'm sitting in a house in florida with a very bad ear piece that they gave me. and you could hardly hear what he was saying. what i heard was various groups, and i don't mind disavowing anybody, and i disavowed david duke and disavowed him the day before in a major news conference. >> so blaming an ear piece, and another trump news, of course, you have one senator saying he will not under any circumstance vote for trump. and then you have a second, jeff sessions, coming out strongly to support him. of course, now, the headline, david duke, just what trump doesn't want. chris. >> jacob rascon in virginia, thanks to you. let's take a look live now at marco rubio holding a campaign rally in alcoa, tennessee. this is his first of five campaign stops today across four
super tuesday states. gabe gutierrez is about an hour and a half west of me in atlanta, where rubio will be coming in two hours. let's talk a little bit about his strategy, because boy, has he picked up some of his rhetoric against trump in the past 24 hours. >> good morning. marco rubio continuing to hammer donald trump. you just heard it a few moments ago on msnbc. he is saying he is not buying donald trump's excuse of that faulty ear piece. he says that trump should have been able to hear the questioner when he mentioned the ku klux klan. and he continued to go after trump, using this rhetoric that he has been for the last couple of days. talking about donald trump's spray tan and making fun of him for his small hands. stuff you wouldn't think you would have heard from the rubio campaign just a few weeks ago. now, take a listen to something he said just a few moments ago in tennessee. this appears to be a new line of attack. >> unlike donald trump who won't tell you where he stands on this issues because he doesn't care
where he stands on these issues. to him, it's we'll figure it out when we get there. we cannot elect the dog that caught the car. get it? think about it. the dog is always barking at the car. what are you going to do when you catch that car? we can't risk it. >> so marco rubio going after donald trump. and calling him a dog of sorts. and this is another example, chris, of marco rubio's campaign really feeling like they have to go directly after him and feeling that they have to join the circus, so to speak, so they can talk about substantive policy differences. rubio's campaign, as you mentioned, will have a very busy day today. they have five stops in four states. really trying to make a push on super tuesday. and trying to pick up as many delegates as they can ahead of the crucial march 15th primary in florida. but they do feel they're getting under donald trump's skin.
donald trump calling rubio little rubio, and taking a large chunk out of his stump speech to address these attacks. so the rubio campaign feels they can build momentum here, and that they can make the case to voters that he can be the anti-trump, and is best positioned to label him as a con artist and eventually be the nominee and take on the democrats. really putting it in stark terms, saying if they elect donald trump, that this could be the end of the republican party. that's what rubio's campaign is saying. chris. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you. let's go over to hallie jackson who has been following the cruz campaign in san antonio, texas. so, hallee, you had this escalating food fight between donald trump and marco rubio. where does cruz fit into all this and what's he saying about the trump controversy regarding david duke? >> so what we've seen from ted cruz, chris, is sort of staying away from some of those insults that you have heard tossed around from some of the other candidates. although he has hit trump with some pretty tough language, for example, over the weekend,
talking about his rich daddy and how easy it must be to be successful when you're able to inherit money. cruz was asked about the kkk comments from donald trump. i actually brought this up to him yesterday. here's what he had to say about that. >> i thought that was unfortunate, particularly when layered upon the fact that white nationalist groups were doing robocalls, urging people to vote for donald trump, and telling people don't vote for the cubans in this race. listen, there's always been ugy elements of politics and no candidates can control what outside groups do, but in my view, racism and bigotry has no place in politics. >> so cruz taking the opportunity to go after trump on this, chris. but when you look at his broader overall strategy, he and marco rubio at their foundation, sort of fundamentally, have the same plan. be the anti-trump candidate. they're doing it in very different ways. cruz trying to bring together that conservative base, and actually one of the states he's looking to do that is oklahoma. he's in texas at several stops
today and tomorrow, but he was in oklahoma this weekend, and his campaign points to the fact that oklahoma is really the first closed primary of this campaign season, meaning only registered republicans can get out and vote. there's a sense among the campaign trump is pulling in support from independents, people who may be leaning democratic. for them, oklahoma is a way to get a gauge on where the conservative base is and how cruz may be able to play in the super tuesday states and states voting later in the month. >> time is running out for everyone who is not donald trump. hal hallie jackson, thanks so much. i want to bring in our election insiders panel. charlie harper, political consultant, rashad taylor, and john padgett, chairman of the georgia republican party. so let me start with you, john. is this the republican party that you know and love? what you're seeing right now? >> i know and love the republican party. we have understand that primaries are about not only selecting a candidate, but
they're also to be sure that our candidates are well tested, because what they're dealing with right now in a primary, they're going to deal with much worse when we get in the battle with the democrats and secretary clinton. and you have to ask the candidates what they think about what they say. and then you have to ask the other candidates what they think about what the candidates said. it's not my job as chairman of the georgia republican party to critique any of them. although, as far as the brouhaha going on right now about donald trump and david duke, i will remind you that in 1992, i believe, david duke tried to get on the ballot in georgia as a republican, and the executive committee of the state gop decided they didn't want him on the ballot. i can tell you the georgia gop has no interest in doing anything but disavowing any kind of support from david duke or the ku klux klan or any of their members. >> rashad, what we're hearing now, and there have been some
back and forth from donald trump is bad earpiece. what do you make of this back and forth? >> you know, i usually don't weigh in on the republican party's primary battles, but i think, you know, donald trump has really had an oversized impact on the republican primary, but also just campaigns and politics in yesterdageneral. i think he's turned the stump speech and what candidates say on the stump into it seems like late night with jimmy fallon. ial not sure if it's a monologue or a presidential campaign stump speech. >> there is something different, isn't there, between what we showed and we can play more of it, this kind of what i call frat boy humor, you know, small hands, little man, those kinds of personal insults. and talking about the ku klux klan and white supremacist groups. that's a very different thing, isn't it? >> it's very different. today you would expect the leader of the democratic or republican party to disavow it immediately and very strongly. i haven't seen that from donald
trump. it's up to the republican voters to decide if his disavowment was enough for them. but i hope that we can move beyond this type of rhetoric to something that focuses on how to move the country forward. >> mike huckabee was running for president, he had something to say this morning about the controversy. >> david duke and the ku klux klan are absolutely abobinable. i don't think anybody i know, anybody i have ever known supports them. there's an incredible overwhelming fascination. i have been watching this morning. but look, let me ask you this. do you think hillary clinton is going to have to answer for her relationship with senator robert bird, woo was an actual member of the kkk? >> mike, this is pretty simple. donald was asked two simple questions and he didn't answer them. there's no fascination here. i just like to hear him say the ku klux klan -- i would like him to say about the ku klux klan what you just said about the ku klux klan. i don't think that's hard.
do you? >> so charlie, that's the question everybody is asking. well, they have been asking it all loon, is there a line donald trump can't cross? do you think he has crossed it? will it make a difference in the polls in georgia and other states in the south in particular? >> he's crossed it for me. i can speak for myself as a republican voter. the chairman, he has to represent the party and ultimately, donald trump was on the ballot before he careened into the lines that shouldn't have been crossed, including religious tests, including the history of donald trump's campaign has been to say something outrageous and 48 hours later, he can't believe there's a reaction because he walks it back and wants to have it both ways. mike huckabee is trying to use false equivalents and say everyone does it, and every everyone's got these ties. it's not difficult as a republican to say we condemn this. and i condemn -- i mean, donald trump actually said his name out loud. and you know, so to blame it on a faulty earpiece, one of the things that's unique about this
is donald trump was live on camera. he's been doing the shows as he calls them, mostly by television. he can have people helping him, notes passed to him. he was flying on his own sunday and he messed up. that's the donald trump we need more of. he's had three and a half times more air time than the entire republican field combined. that's where when you see marco rubio now, you're calling it frat humor, but he's giving speeches that are 45 minutes long and four minutes are the jokes that donald trump very much designed to get inside donald trump's head, and it appears to be working. but the policy hasn't been covered. what's covered is the donald trump entertainment reality tv show as a campaign. so you've got candidates that have now decided if that's what it takes to get air time as well as bring donald trump down to the level, he's arschool yard bully, and republicans are having to hit him in the face because you have a bully that won't even say the klan is bad, and other people defending that. as a republican, that offends me. >> and hillary clinton talked about it this morning. in fact, she just had this to
say about what she calls hateful rhetoric. >> i don't think america has ever stopped being great. what we need to do now is make america whole. working together. rejecting the mean spiritedness. the hateful rhetoric, the insults. that's not who we are. now, look, we have differences. that's part of the american dna. you get two americans together and they start talking politics, you know there's going to be differences. but that's part of our great democracy. what we can't let happen is the scapegoating, the blaming, the finger pointing that is going on on the republican side. >> so john, hillary clinton and other democrats have come out, obviously, against what donald trump has said. is this an opportunity for the republicans to speak with one voice? and there's been a lot of talk about how the establishment has
been separated from this new wing of the party, the anti-government, anti-washington, anti-establishment wing of the party. a lot of conversations about when chris christie went over, that he's left the establishment to go over to the other side, to donald trump. but in this case, when we're talking about something like the ku klux klan, when we're talking about white supremacist groups, is it incumbent upon the gop to speak with one voice? >> it certainly is. it's incumbent that we speak with one voice on that. let me also point out to you, on the other side, over the last year or so, there's been an awful lot of finger pointing from the democrats to the republicans. and a lot of what verbiage has been and a lot of the conversation coming out of that side has not been the most polite that you can imagine in politics or otherwise. and i have a little problem right now with just because of this one particular issue, which is a major issue, i might point out, and to me personally, it's
a major issue, but we also have to understand that the democrats got some problems of their own. they're having a pretty tough primary right now. if everything that's happened in washington in the last seven years under barack obama has been something that all of the democrats in the country have been in favor of, you wouldn't see bernie sanders doing the kind of job that he's doing right now against secretary clinton. >> it's been a fascinating conversation. thanks to all of you for coming in on this glorious day in athens, georgia. really appreciate it. as we mentioned, the campaigns are all over the map. take a look at ben carson in lexington, kentucky. marco rubio in tennessee. hillary clinton, we just saw her in massachusetts. still ahead, time is running out for bernie sanders. as polls show hillary clinton with a commanding lead in the majority of super tuesday states. so we're going to talk with congresswoman tulsi gabbard. she sent shock waves through the democratic party. she resigned from the democratic
national committee to endorse bernie sanders for president. we also have cal perry on the road in atlanta, georgia. hey, cal. >> hey, chris. good morning. so on the road from alabama to here in georgia, we stopped to talk to a church group about the messaging, the election, and their concerns. we'll have more on that in a few minutes. when you think about success, what does it look like? is it becoming a better professor by being a more adventurous student? is it one day giving your daughter the opportunity she deserves? is it finally witnessing all the artistic wonders of the natural world? whatever your definition of success is, helping you pursue it, is ours. t-i-a-a. i've been blind since birth. i go through periods where it's hard to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. learn about non-24 by calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com.
crowd in springfield, massachusetts, in a state where bernie sanders is keeping it close. and his campaign is on pace to raise $40 million this month alone. despite that predicted massive haul in cash, sanders could be staring at a hillary clinton super tuesday route come tomorrow. it's all in the numbers. the polls in georgia, tennessee, texas, even massachusetts where bernie sanders thinks he's got a good chance, they all show
hillary clinton with double-digit leads. despite those numbers, bernie sanders just picked up the support of a high-profile member of congress over the weekend. tulsi gabbard of hawaii, yesterday, quitting her job as the dnc vice chair to endorse bernie sanders. congresswoman tulsi gabbard, good morning. >> good morning. >> you're considered a rising star in the democratic party. you had a position of leadership in the democratic national committee. so what compelled you to step down? >> chris, as a veteran and as a soldier, the most important job for our president is their job as commander in chief. there is simply too much at stake here to stand on the sidelines and not speak out about the very clear differences and the clear choice that sits before the american people. it's important that we have a commander in chief who exercises good judgment, who has foresight and who will not continue to take us into these
interventionist regime change wars that we have seen occurring in iraq, in libya, with disastrous consequences, and now, in syria, that will result in even greater disastrous consequences. i have come out and supported bernie sanders for president because he will be that commander in chief who will no longer take us into these interventionist wars and who will towards bringing us to a place of peace. >> the implication of that is that you don't think hillary clinton has that good judgment or that she was at least responsible for disastrous judgments that led us to interventionist war. is that what you're saying? >> it is what i'm saying, because you can tell how a person will lead, what they will do in the future, by what they'll do in the past. when you look at hillary clinton's record, and the u.s. senate, she champions and voted for the war in iraq. i don't need to go into detail about the tremendous cost that that war had on my brothers and sisters in uniform, their lives,
those who have sacrificed their lives, those who have come home with tremendous invisible wounds. the cost on the country and the economic toll that it's taking, to speak of the costs in the middle east with thousands, hundreds of thousands of lives. let's look at libya. hillary clinton was the chief architect and champion for the overthrow of gadhafi. where is libya today? it's a failed state, full of chaos. with isis and al qaeda having a greater stronghold there than they ever did before. now with syria, this is something we're facing today and that our next commander in chief will have to deal with. hillary clinton has pushed for the overthrow of the syrian government of assad, which if was successful, would strengthen isis, al qaeda, and these other islamist terrorist groups and she says that she would call for a so-called no-fly zone, which would escalate the conflict there because it would put us in direct odds with russia. and you can imagine the
consequences of that with potential nuclear implications. bernie sanders' record is exactly the opposite. and that's really where there's a clear choice between the two. >> you have just articulated so well how passionately you feel about the subject. you were in a position to make change, as i mentioned at the top, someone in a position of leadership at the democratic national committee. was it hard for you to make that decision, because there obviously is something you have given up, and that was to make change from the inside in a different way? >> yeah, chris. you know, i thought about this long and hard. and you know, the question i was asking myself is where can i be most impactful. it was growing increasingly frustrating to me, being in a position where i had to stay neutral and on the sidelines in this race, to see this key and most important issue of war and peace not being addressed. the media not pushing these candidates, not examining their record in a thorough way that voters deserve. and felt a responsibility both
to my friends, who i served with, who didn't come home, to the veterans of my generation and the next generation who will come to step away from the dnc and to come out and be able to speak strongly and clearly and candidly about the high stakes in this election and the clear choice that we have as democrats in this primary between bernie sanders and hillary clinton. >> congresswoman, thank you so much for taking the time. good to talk to you. >> thank you, chris. aloha. >> up next, we'll check in with cal perry who has been talking to georgia voters. he's going to join us live from the martin luther king jr. national historic site in atlanta. that's coming up next. in less than 30 seconds, beautiful georgia the largest state east of the mississippi river, is the birthplace of coca-cola. dating back to 1886. in terms of passenger traffic, laept's famous hartsfield international airport is known
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so, where i am in georgia is among the super tuesday states with a really huge payoff in terms of delegates. there are 116 at stake for the democrats. 76 delegates for the republicans. let's check in with my road buddy for the past six days, cal perry in atlanta, about 75 miles west from where we set up shop this morning. i can tell you from driving in yesterday, a very congested road. so cal, i know you used all of this as an excuse to get some barbecue. you went to a restaurant. talk to a lot of voters. as they look at who to vote for, what were some of your takeaways? >> yeah, listen. on the heels of that sweeping clinton victory in south carolina, we wanted to meet with a church group in alabama to find out the issues that are important to that community. >> we look at it as the black
lives, they look at it like it's a racial profiling. >> what do you think of the republicans running this year? >> i think it is a reality show. it could be. it could be really a reality because the thing they're doing like in debates and everything is just -- it doesn't make sense. i don't think that it should be that way. i don't think they should have a debate like that. you know, going at each other like that. it's like people do on reality shows. >> so like if we were to prioritize them, jobs, medical, education. education is number one? >> education, you want to be great, you have to have your education to be great. >> education? >> education is number one. thing i think is important to our state. and our people. a lot of people don't have it in this area. therefore, we don't get the benefits other areas get. we need strong leadership and we
need money to be able to get resources to our young people who need it. >> you're going to vote, hands. let's do it that way. wow. >> i think hillary will be number one. number one candidate. like i said, trump, everybody says he's a businessman, but he has ups and downs, failure like everybody else has. at insame time, i don't think he relates to certain classes of people. you know, if you go through life and you don't deal with, who yao mingal with, that's who you associate with. until he associates with the lower class, i don't think he understands where they're coming from. >> and chris, what seems to be true in alabama holds true here in georgia as well, speaking to people this morning. it's clear that the clinton family is a known quantity. trump is not. it will be interesting to see if the david duke controversy really hurts him going into tomorrow. probably not, but when we talk to people here, they say during the general, that could have a
real effect. chris. >> fascinating. thank you so much, cal perry, on the road for us. if you have a spot that cal should visit in your super tuesday state, you can tweet us with the hashtag #2016 to let us know. he's going to be out there for many months to come. meantime, bernie sanders campaigning in massachusetts and minnesota ahead of super tuesday. he says his grassroots political revolution is growing. state by state. but will his long game strategy work in his bid for the democratic presidential nomination? >> and did you know georgia is the largest producer of peanuts in the united states? accounting for nearly half of the total country's production. plains, georgia, native, and former president jimmy carter once owned a peanut farm here. if you're ever in town, stop by. see the 13-foot smiling peanut statue on route 45. don't miss it. you're driving through the woods
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well, we got decimated. that's what happened. among older african-americans, it was pathetic. no question, secretary clinton won that state and won big. we're in minnesota now. i think we have a shot at minnesota. a shot at colorado, oklahoma, massachusetts, and vermont. we're looking to the future, not looking back. >> bernie sanders with, you got to give this to him, a realistic assessment of what happened in south carolina. also looking forward to the super tuesday states, and those that he thinks maybe he could win against hillary clinton. but can sanders stay the course and keep pace with this hunt for delegates? we want to go now live to nbc's kasie hunt who has been on the road with sanders. she's in rochester, minnesota, one of the states sanders hopes to pick up. what's the strategy moving forward after the devastating loss in south carolina. >> hey, chris. that's right. it was a tough night for the sanders campaign.
tougher than they expected with african-american voters. at this point, they're trying to regroup. they had all but written south carolina out of sanders' travel schedule over the course of the last week. he's hit 11 different states in 7 days over the course of the week leading up to super tuesday. because as you know, this could potentially be his last shot to be viewed as the serious challenger to hillary clinton. i asked him about that over the weekend. >> not our last shot. i think as most americans know, this is a long process, state by state by state. right now, we're looking at super tuesday. we have 11 states up, and after that, there are a lot more states. we're going to contest all of these states. i think we're going to win a number of them. we're feeling very good. >> so of course, if sanders is able to maintain his fund-raising, he has all these grassroots donors who have been giving him millions of dollars. they're expecting february to be a great month.
that of course incorporating the money they raised after his win in new hampshire. they will be able to continue on for quite some time. that's one of the differences between sanders and some of the other challenges that we have seen in the past. but at the same time, if he does lose major momentum on super tuesday, there's going to be more pressure on him to get out of the race and let hillary clinton run in a general election. chris. >> kasie hunt, thank you so much. let's talk about millennials now since we're on the campus of the university of georgia. they have proved to be another kroul crucial voting block for republicans and democrats. young voters ages 18 to 29 make up about a third of the electorate. so far, their turnout numbers have been strong, rivaling those in 2008 and 2012. a new poll out of the super tuesday state of massachusetts, for example, shows bernie sanders beating hillary clinton among young voters by 42 points. that's been a critical group for him. and even though sanders lost both south carolina and nevada, he's been the beneficiary of young voters beating clinton among this age group. on the republican side, donald
trump got 38% of the youth vote in new hampshire. came in second in nevada and south carolina. joining me now here to talk about what's driving their enthusiasm, a group of students at the university of georgia. emma is president of the university of georgia young democrats, amber webb is chairman of the university of georgia young republicans, and brett smith is the university of georgia student who just a few weeks ago made headlines after sharing an emotional moment on the campaign trail with republican candidate governor john kasich. >> i was in a really dark place for a long time. i was pretty depressed, but i found hope and i found it in the lord and in my friends. and now i found it in my presidential candidate that i support. and i would really appreciate one of those hugs you have been talking about. >> we're back live with brett. i thought that was an incredibly
brave and profound moment for all of us to see and for john kasich. how are you, first of all? and second of all, what are your thoughts about the campaign? >> i don't think the campaign is going quite in the direction i would like it to go obviously in both attitude and substance and things of that matter, but personally, after the experience, you know, it's been pretty touching. you know, i mean, not just -- it's been neat to be interviewed and things like that, but also to have people reach out to you with similar stories. you know, my inbox has been blowing up on my e-mail with people just letting me know that they've been in a similar place, and you know, they were, you know, that they wanted to let me know they were there for me, and i wanted to let them know i was there for them, too. it's been a neat experience so far. >> there are so many things that matter. obviously, college tuition, college loans, big things. i'm wondering, amber, what the conversation is like on campus, where the focus is, and where's
the level of enthusiasm, honestly? >> to answer the first part of your question, we're seeing a huge focus on education, and college education and how students are going to be able to pay back their student loans and post-grad opportunities for jobs. that's something that is probably the biggest issue and the thing that we focus on the most. we're all looking for a candidate who brings practical solutions to the student at crisis and the employment opportunities we're looking at after graduating. >> emma, same for you? >> yeah, i would say college education, all being college students, is a really important issue. and in georgia, we are lucky to have the hope scholarship that provides, you know, help paying for college to many students. but in georgia, there's a ban on undocumented students, so we still have those students living in georgia who are unable to attend the top five universities in georgia, and also are not given in-state tuition at any other public colleges in georgia. so i would say for students, it's important.
for us to find debt relief and also insure that all georgens, no matter what a piece of paper says, they have the opportunity to go there as well. >> when you look at your members and the people you talk to on campus, there as, as many millennials are, favorering bernie sanders and what's the level of enthusiasm? >> at least in our organization, the young democrats, there's a pretty even split between bernie sanders supporters and hillary clinton supporters. but i would say the consensus is that we are both really happy to have two strong candidates who stand for progressive values and no matter who we're voting for in the primary tomorrow, we're excited to support either candidate come november. >> really quickly, amber, scale of 1 to 10, enthusiasm level on the republican side? >> 10, all of our students are so excited. i'm incredibly proud to lead an organization that has so many students that are so passionate and so excited. >> you're somewhat unbiased. a lot of people talking about the campaign? >> yeah, they are.
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massive early voting turnout. we know where we'll be seeing these across the country tomorrow on super tuesday. folks are setting this up right now. here in the great state of texas, arguably, there are few buildings more important than that one there, and the people inside, i went inside yesterday to find out what's going on and why it's so important. take a look at this. this is the tarant county, texas, election office, and everybody that is in the room is here to train to become a poll worker and election judge on super tuesday. what's it like? >> exciting. >> is it in. >> yes, very informative. >> even if it's a low turnout? >> that's not what it's about. it's just seeing that the people are going to come out and be a part of it. that's my main thing. >> when you come to a poll worker training, you have done this before, so why do you come back for a refresher? >> oh, have something to do. think about something different rather than what's going on around here. >> nice break, huh? >> that's right. a break in the monotony.
>> thank you for your service. >> thank you. 30 years. >> 30 years as an election judge? >> no, no. >> 30 years in the military. >> that's right. >> what are you expected here on tuesday? >> we hope a great turnout, that lots of people are interested in voting and they'll be at the polls bright and early. >> do you feel like it's going to be a big turnout? >> i do, and let the best man win. >> the best man or woman? or maybe man. >> i'm not going to commit myself. best man win. >> what kdo you expect to happe? any idea who would win? >> what i would love to see is for hillary to win big in fort worth, in this area. >> do you want to make a prediction? >> no, but she and i are on the same page. >> do you have any predictions as to who's going to win on tuesday? >> i think ted cruz will win. >> the home town senator? >> yes, sir. >> oh, i think hillary clinton is going to do wonderfully. >> that's on the democratic
side. what about on the republican side? what's it looking like? >> i don't even call their elections. that's up to them. >> sounds like you're a democratic poll judge. >> absolutely. >> can you tell i'm an investigative reporter? >> yes. >> what's the hardest part about being an election judge? >> you're responsible for everything. >> democracy, right? >> democracy. that's right. >> chris, democracy. what you're looking at right here is people inside signing up again to become poll judges, election judges, on super tuesday. tomorrow. later on during the day on msnbc i'll talk behind the scenes with the man who runs tarrant county elections where they're seeing the early voting turnout on the republican side. stay tuned for that. >> we will. amazing interviews. i think you get these people from center casting there so good. thank you so much. now, any minute now, we're expecting to hear from ted cruz who is in texas. ben carson has been speaking this hour on the campaign trail, and our presidential race looks a lot like mad max fury road.
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role it's go to play tomorrow? >> georgia is a state with a lot of delegates on the line tomorrow. behind texas, it carryathiies t most on the democratic and republican side. it's a place where both sides are fighting for delegates. >> let's look at what matters here. what's the likely turnout? >> likely turnout is likely to be high on the republican side. what we have seen is that we have noticed a drop off in the democratic side as compared to 2008 where they were setting records like the republicans are doing this time. >> so much movement. we call this the s.e.c. primary, the states that are in the s.e.c. how do you think this has changed the equation as we look at the process of picking a president? >> well, it hasn't changed it all that much because if we look back four years. we only added texas to the mix. they were forced to go in 2012. arkansas and texas have moved up. that's moved with it a lot of delegates. four years ago, the first tuesday of march was also pretty southern flavored. >> after tomorrow, how close will the race be to being over, do you think? >> once the calendar switches
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good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall live in new york. at the msnbc headquarters, and right now, the final push is on. just 19 hours now until the first polls open on super tuesday. when nearly a quarter of all democratic and republican convention delegates will be up for grabs. it's a big day ahead of us. a big week. right now, we're also awaiting a solemn ceremony at the white house. president obama will award the medal of honor, as you know, the nation's highest military award, to a navy s.e.a.l. whose elite unit rescued an american hostage from the taliban in afghanistan in 2012. navy senior chief edward buyers was a member of s.e.a.l. team six whose operations are normally kept secret. a similar s.e.a.l. team six unit killed osama bin laden. byers is believed to be the first service member to receive the medal of honor for actions while actually serving with
s.e.a.l. team 6. an extraordinary ceremony will be held this hour. as we wait to bring you that ceremony, and it will begin in a few minutes, we want to turn to the republican and democratic candidates swarming the super tuesday states from the east coast to texas and oklahoma. they will be holding a total of 20 campaign events and 9 of the dozen states holding contests tomorrow. on the republican side right now, we're waiting to hear from senator ted cruz. he's holding a rally at gillie's in dallas, a famous club, of course. you might remember it in the 1980 movie "urban cowboy." the first of three events cruz is holding today in his home state. considered a must-win for the senator. also the biggest prize tomorrow. the state where the most delegates are at stake. now, look at this. our latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll/marrest poll shows cruz has a 13-point lead in texas. but donald trump leads in two other important super tuesday states. we're keeping an eye on georgia and tennessee. other new polls out also show
trump ahead in at least three other super tuesday states. that as a new poll this morning shows donald trump now dominating his gop rivals nationally, which he's been doing for some time. a 33-point lead at this point in the cnn poll. all of this amid a barrage of insults and innuendo in the republican race, and a new controversy this morning over whether trump refused to disavow an endorsement from the former head of the kkk, david duke. >> i will address little rubio. this guy has a fresh mouth. he's a very nasty guy. >> have you seen his hands? they're like this. and you know what they say about men with small hands. you can't trust them. you can't trust them. you can't trust them. >> there have been multiple
media reports about donald's business dealings with the mob, with the mafia. maybe his taxes show those business dealings are a lot more extensive than has been reported. >> we cannot be a party that nominates something who refuses to condemn white supremacists and the ku klux klan. >> let me tell you, i'm sitting in a house in florida with a very bad earpiece they gave me and you could hardly hear what he was saying. what i heard was various groups. i don't mind disavowing anybody. i disavowed david duke and disavowed him the day before in a major news conference. i have no problem with disavowing groups. i would at least like to know who they are. >> so to catch you up here, the sound you heard from donald trump on the phone interview, and hallie jackson is standing by. she's covering ted cruz. she's with his campaign. hallie, i feel like we need to make it clear to our audience, the last sound, the interview from donald trump, was this morning on the "today" show. he's referring back to the cnn interview over the weekend where he's asked repeatedly whether he
would disavow david duke, whether he would disavow the kkk. and he did not during that specific interview. now, donald trump is saying he had trouble with his earpiece, and was not able to hear. how is senator cruz responding to this, this morning? >> well, just to go back for a second, tamron, because donald trump also pointed to the fact that on friday in a news conference, he was asked about this david duke endorsement and he disavowed it then. you saw him yesterday tweet, pointing to that, saying i do disavow, and putting the video clip online, on facebook and twitter. that's what he was referring to in the "today" show interview. that said, he didn't do it on sunday. he sort of avoided the question. now he says it's because of the earpiece issue. i asked senator cruz about this at a rally in oklahoma city recently, last night, and he said that obviously, the kkk is reprehensible. he wishes donald trump said on friday what he said on sunday,
essentially. cruz responding to this, as are the other cand dtsdz in the gop field, talking about trump's comments as we carry this into the storyline ahead of super tuesday. cruz himself is spending a lot of time in texas today. he's got several stops here. he'll be here again tomorrow. his watch party for the super tuesday results is up outside houston. this is a state where he's put aglot of volunteers and boots on the ground. we have new numbers from the campaign. in addition to the 27,000 volunteers we knew about, he said they're up 10,000 people using the cruz 2016 app to reach out to friends and neighbors. they have 7,000 people working polling locations tomorrow, and they say they have volunteer captains, essentially volunteer chairs, in every texas congressional district. it's a sign of just how important this state is to the campaign. cruz himself has called it the crown jewel. it is significant that he's spending so much time here today and tomorrow. a sign perhaps that the campaign is concerned about trump maybe eating away at some of their lead. cruz was in oklahoma, was in arkansas over the weekend. those are two other states where the campaign believes they could be making plays.
but trump does still hold polling advantages there. that said, oklahoma is the first closed republican primary, meaning only registered republicans can vote. and there's a sense among the campaign that perhaps that might give them an advantage given that donald trump sometimes seems to have appeal among nments, among democrats. that's something we have seen in prior contests. >> thank you. marco rubio isn't letting up on his attacks against donald trump. in a rally near knoxville, tennessee, just a short time ago, senator rubio called trump unelectable for failing to criticize the david duke endorsement. >> he blamed it on a bad earpiece, that he couldn't hear the question. i don't care how bad the earpiece is, ku klux klan comes through pretty clearly. he refused to criticize it. how are we going to elect -- how can someone like that be our nominee? >> nbc's gabe gutierrez in is atlanta right now. he's covering the rubio campaign. we heard from senator rubio, not letting up here. the big headline also today,
gabe, as you know, is there are a lot of big donors on the sideline, a lot of establishment lawmaker whose may now be ready to support rubio, given this david duke issue with donald trump. >> hey, there, tamron. well, in just the past few minutes, it was announced that senator tom coburn, former senator from oklahoma, will be endorsing marco rubio. this is part of the rubio campaign's push to really build this establishment coalition. and try to build momentum following this weekend's insults flying back and forth between donald trump and marco rubio. also, the super pac backing marco rubio, conservative solutions, is out with a new ad that they're trying to get up in time for super tuesday. not sure if that can happen. but they plan to have it out in time for other states voting later in march. directly attacking donald trump over his refusal to disavow david duke during that cnn
interview. of course, as you mentioned, donald trump later tweeting he did disavow and had in previous occasions but he's blaming it on the earpiece. marco rubio this morning, is not buying that earpiece excuse. rubio campaign feels that they can keep hammering donald trump on this issue. right now, they're also pushing on social media, the message they have for the past few days, and that is friends do not let friends vote for con artists. that is the primary term that the rubio campaign is trying to frame, trying to frame donald trump. they want to label him as a con artist over and over again. they feel if they can be seen as the anti-trump candidate, they can finally make headway. as you have been reporting, as hallie reported, in his way are other candidates like ted cruz, who is hoping to make a big victory in texas. for marco rubio, the outlook does not look so good on super tuesday. although his campaign feels they could pick up a lot of delegates, and they are making pushes in states like virginia and minnesota.
today, he has five rallies in four states. this rally in atlanta is set to get started in a few hours. then he moves on, two rallies in oklahoma as well. and a rally in arkansas as well. very busy time for the marco rubio campaign. the question will be, will these attacks against donald trump over his hair, over his spray tan, will this turn off voters or will this convince voters that he is the guy to take on donald trump? >> and gabe, let me ask you, from the team behind the scenes, is the rubio campaign feeling stronger, not just verbally, but what are they hearing on the ground from their volunteers? are they seeing some people who are willing, the potential late deciders in the past who have gone for rubio, not giving him a win, but they have broken for rubio, there late deciders. what is it looking like on the ground in these states? >> i spoke with several voters in virginia yesterday, at marco rubio's rally there, and he had
several rallies there. the crowds we have been seeing in the past few days have been large for marco rubio. larger than any point in the campaign. there are some people turned off by the general tone of the campaign. they say it's lamentable it's gotten to this point. but the rubio supporters say, listen, they had wanted someone to go after donald trump. they cannot see donald trump as the nominee. and so if this is what it takes, these voters say, they're all for it. >> thank you very much, gabe. turning to the democratic side of the race, and donald trump's latest controversy brought responses from the two candidates. this weekend, hillary clinton retweeted bernie sanders, which her campaign has never done. they have not done the retweet thing. they retweeted bernie sanders's condemnation of the gop's front-runner's refusal to disavow david duke and the kkk. that was only a brief cease-fire as clinton and sanders crisscrossed the country ahead of super tuesday. kasie hunt is in minneapolis with the latest on the democratic race. and kasie, even though we know senator sanders is fighting this out to the bitter end here, it
seems as though, and we talked about this over the weekend, hillary clinton's mindset, her choice of words, seem focused on now the general election. >> that's right, tamron. and that retweet in some ways echoes that. i will say, bernie sanders' campaign not just tweeting about trump. he's talking about trump more in his stump speeches as they try to shift their argument to say it will take an outsider to take on another outsider as it looks increasingly as though donald trump may be on a march to securing the republican nomination. i will say, tamron, there's some evidence hillary clinton isn't letting up the pressure in this primary against senator sanders, going into super tuesday. they're both set to be in massachusetts at some point today. take a listen to what hillary clinton had to say about the issue of guns. >> my opponent voted five times against the brady bill, and he voted for this loophole which set a deadline. it didn't matter how hard it was
to collect the information to find out if they had a criminal record or a restraining order due to domestic violence or had been committed for dangerous mental illness. didn't matter how long that might take. at the end of three days, you got your gun. >> so, of course, that issue, one that resonates pretty deeply with a lot of these democratic primary voters. one of the few issues where hillary clinton has been able to criticize bernie sanders from the left. that's a little evidence she knows she has to keep her foot on the gas in that regard. but as you say, this is potentially setting up to be a tough day for bernie sanders on super tuesday. clinton, of course, traveling to massachusetts, one of the states where sanders feels like they potentially can win. it's a neighboring state. a lot of white voters in massachusetts, of course. other states where he thinks he can potentially win here in minnesota, where he'll hold a rally in about an hour or so. colorado, as well. potentially oklahoma. all states with a lower share of
minority voters. and of course, the big delegate prizes tomorrow are going to be across the south. states like texas, alabama, georgia, where the minority voters play a much bigger role. at this point, the sanders campaign is already trying to argue the super tuesday results won't matter, that the demographics will be in their favor in the long haul. that's going to get more and more difficult if he doesn't post wins that seem to match clinton on super tuesday. >> thank you very much. and coming up, new reaction from the trump campaign about the criticism over not disavowing david duke in that interview on cnn sunday. and the name calling with rubio and cruz. what is trump saying now? well, his campaign national spokesperson, katrina pierson, will join us live. plus, the new efforts by some so-called establishment republicans to keep trump from becoming their nominee. how far are they willing to go? and what is their plan ahead to overtake trump?
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check and his family and friends. may a grateful america always remember and honor his service and his sacrifice. amen. please be seated. good morning, everyone. welcome to the white house. the ethos, the creed that guides every navy seal says this. i do not advertise the nature of my work. nor seek recognition for my actions. which is another way of saying that standing here today in front of the entire nation is not senior chief ed byers' idea of a good time. like so many of our special operators, ed is defined by a
deep sense of humility. he doesn't seek the spotlight. in fact, he shuns it. he's the consummate quiet professional. i imagine there are a lot of other places he would rather be than in front of all these cameras. back in coronado for another hell week. holding his breath under dark, frigid water. spending months being cold, wet, and sandy. i'm sure there are other things he would rather be doing. but the medal of honor is our nation's highest military declaration, and today's ceremony is true ly unique. a rare opportunity for the american people to get a glimpse of a special breed of warrior that so often serves in the shadows. we're a nation of more than 300 million americans. of these, less than 1% wear the
uniform of our armed forces. of these, just a small fraction serve in our special operations forces. among those who train to become a s.e.a.l., only a select few emerge and earn the right to wear that golden trident. krrg this. in the entire history of the navy seals, just five have been awarded the medal of honor. their names have become legend. norris, carey, thornton, murphy, monsour, and now a sixth, byerb. among the members of the medal of honor society who are with us, we are especially honors by the presence of tommy morris and mike thornton.
[ applause ] now, given the nature of ed's service, there is a lot that we cannot say today. many of the operational details of his mission remain classified. many of his teammates cannot be mentioned, and this is as it should be. their success demands secrecy and that secrecy saves lives. there are, however, many distinguished guests we can acnaumg, including members of congress, leaders from across our military, including the navy, in fact, this may be the largest gathering of special ops in the history of the white house. among them, we have from special operations command, general joe votell. and vice admiral shaun pivas. from joint special operations command, rear admiral tim
simanski and from naval special warfare command, admiral brian losy and derrick walters. from america's special operators, this is a little bit of a family reunion and it's wonderful to have them all here. most of all, we welcome ed's wonderful family. his wife madison, who like so many military spouses, has kept their family strong back home while ed has been deployed. their spectacular daughter hannah, who is a competitive figure skater. and looks the part. ed likes to jump out of planes with a parachute and when he's not skydiving, he's driving his 1976 shovel head harley. when he's not out riding, he's staying in shape with hannah who is apparently his workout partner. it's good when your trainer is a navy s.e.a.l. we also welcome ed's mom peggy,
who i said had one question when ed told her about the ceremony. do you think i can come? that's so sweet. yes, mom. you're allowed to come when your son gets the medal of honor. ed's brothers and sisters are here. as are about 50 cousins from all across the country. and dozens of friends. many who served alongside ed. some who have traveled from around the world to be here today. that's the brotherhood, the depth of loyalty to service and to mission that binds these teams. now, looking back, it seems ed byers was destined to serve. his father served in the navy in world war ii and now rests in arlington. as a boy growing up in grand rapids, ohio, ed would be in the woods in camouflage, in his words, playing military.
and i suspect the other kids did not stand a chance. a boy scout who loved adventure, ed saw a movie about the navy s.e.a.l.s and fell in love with the idea of deploying by sea, air, and land. i believe that man will not merely endure, he will prevail. william faulkner once said, because he has a soul, a spirit, capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance. even if he had never performed the actions for which he's being recognized here today, ed byers would long be remembered for his compassion, his sacrifice, and his endurance. 11 overseas deployments, nine combat tours, recipient of the purple heart twice. bronze star with valor five times. about three years ago, our nation called on that spirit once again. in afghanistan, an american doctor, a husband and father of
four children, was working to bring health care to the afghan people, was driving down a rural road. gunmen surrounded his car and took him hostage. they tied his hands and marched him into the mountains. the days went by. in a remote valley, in a small single room building surrounded by taliban, he lost all hope. i was certain, he thought, i was about to die. his captors told him, the americans are not coming for you. well, they were wrong. whenever americans are taken haaostage in the world, we move heaven and earth to bring them home safe. we send some thunder and some lightning. our special operator forces, folks like ed byers. they're carefully selected for their character, their integrity, and their judgment. they are highly trained with skills honed by years of
experience. and they willingly volunteer for missions of extraordinary risk like this one. in this case, there was reason to believe that the taliban commander was on his way to take custody of the american hostage and move him into pakistan, so time was of the essence. from a remote forward operating base, ed and his joint team geared up, boarded their hilos and launched. they moved under the cover of darkness on that cold december night through the mountains, down rocky trails for hours. they found their target and moved in quickly and quietly. then when they were less than 100 feet from the building, a guard came out and the bullets started flying. our s.e.a.l.s rushed to the doorway, which was covered by a layer of blankets. ed started ripping them down, exposing himself to enemy fire. a teammate, the lead assaulter, pushed in and was hit. fully aware of the danger, ed
moved in next. an enemy guard aimed his rifle right at him. ed fired. someone moved across the floor. perhaps the hostage, perhaps another guard lunging for a weapon. the struggle was hand to hand. ed straddled him, pinning him down. ed adjusted his night vision goggles. things came into focus and he was on top of a guard. the american hostage later described the scene. the dark room suddenly filled with men and the sound of exploding gunfire. narrow beams of light shot in every direction. voices called out his name. he answered, i'm right here. hearing english, ed leapt across the room and threw himself on the hostage, using his own body to shield him from the bullets. another enemy fighter appeared and with his body, ed kept shielding the hostage with his bare hands, ed pinned the fighter to the wall and held him until his teammates took action.
it was over almost as soon as it began. in just minutes, by going after those guards, ed saved the lives of several teammates and that hostage. you're safe, the s.e.a.l.s told the doctor. you're with american forces. and that hostage came home to be reunited with his wife and his children. a success came with a price. that first s.e.a.l. through the door, ed's friend nick, was grievously wounded. ed is a medic, so on the hilo out, he stayed with nick helping to perform cpr the entire flight, 40 minutes long. today, we salute chief petty officer nicolas czech. back in monroeville, pennsylvania, they remembered him as the driven kid. the football player and wrestler who always wanted to be a s.e.a.l.
for his valor on this mission, he was awarded the navy cross, and he's among the 70 members of the naval special warfare community, 55 of them s.e.a.l.s, who have made the ultimate sacrifice since 9/11. enduring love of nick's family and all those who admired him, remind us of the immense sacrifices our remarkable gold star families have made and our obligation to stand with them always. so today, we don't simply honor a single individual. we also pay tribute to a community across our entire military. special operators, aviators, engineers, technicians, analysts, countless enablers, and their devoted families. these hard years since 9/11, our nation has called on this community like never before. small in number, they have borne an extraordinarily heavy load. but they continue to volunteer,
mission after mission, year after year. few americans ever see it. i am truly privileged and humbled that as commander in chief, i do get to see it. i have given the order sending you into harm's way. i see the difference you make every day. the partners you train, the relationships you forge, the other hostages that you have brought home. the terrorists that you take out. i have waited, like many of you, in the minutes that seem like hours when the margin between success and failure is razor thin, for word that the team is out safe. i have grieved with you. and i have stood with you at dover to welcome our fallen heroes on their final journey home. our special operations forces are a strategic national asset. they teach us that humans are more important than hardware.
today's a reminder that our nation has to keep investing in this irreplaceable asset. which means deploying our special operators wisely. preserving force and family. making sure these incredible americans stay strong in body, in mind, and in spirit. so i'll end where i started with the s.e.a.l. ethos. in times of war or uncertainty, there's a special breed of warrior ready to answer our nation's call. a common man with uncommon desire to succeed. forged by adversety, he stands alongside america's finest operation forces to serve his country, the american people, and protect their way of life. senior chief edward byers jr. is such a man. chief petty officer nick olis czech was that man.
every navy s.e.a.l. and special operator who serves with honor in his chosen profession is that man. the american people may not always see them. we may not always hear of their success, but they are there in the thick of the fight, in the dark of night, achieving their mission. we thank god they're there. we sleep more peacefully in our beds tonight because patriots like these stand ready to answer our nation's call and protect our way of life now and forever. and as we prepare for the reading of the citation, i ask you to join me in expressing america's profound gratitude to navy s.e.a.l. ed byers and all our quiet professionals. [ applause ]
>> the president of the united states in the name of the congress, takes pleasure in presenting the medal of honor to chief special warfare operator edward c. byers jr., united states navy. for conspicuous gallantry at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, as a hostage rescue force team member in afghanistan in support of operation enduring freedom on
8-9 december 2012. as a rescue force approached the target building, a century detected him and darted inside to alert his captors, they emerged and the lead assaulter attempted to newteriutralize hi. he vipted to the door of the building. he stood in the doorway while ripping down six layers of heavy blankets fastened to the inside ceiling and walls to clear a path for the rescue force. the first assaulter pushed his way through the blank tsdz and was mortally won'ted by small fire within. chief byers aware of the imminent threat, fearilolessrly rushed into the room. he then tackled another adult male who had darted towards the corner of the room. during the ensuing hand to hand struggle, chief byers confirmed the man was not the hostage and engaged him. as the other rescue team members called out to the hostage, chief
byers heard a voice respond in english and rashed towards it. he jumped atop the american hostage and shielded him from the high volume of fire within the small room. while covering the hostage with his body, chief byers immobilized another guard with his bare hands and restrained the guard until a teammate could eliminate him. his bold and decisive actions under fire saved the lives of the hostage and several of his teammates. by his undaunted courage, intrepid fighting spirit and unwavering devotion to duty in the face of near certain death, byers reflected great credit upon himself and unheld the highest traditions of the united states naval service.
you have blessed america with riches and with strength. may we use them to make this world of yours more just, peaceable, and humane. you have blessed america also with the tradition of heroism like that of senior chief byers and his brethren in arms. may all of us treasure that history and may it inspire all of us to serve bravely, generously, and faithfully. amen. >> well, that concludes the ceremony, but we actually throw a pretty good party here. and i have been told the hors d'oeuvres are pretty good. so we welcome all of you to join us in the reception. ed and i are going to have to take a few more pictures before he joins you. but we're so grateful to him. we're grateful to his wonderful
family, mom, i'm glad that you could come. we are grateful for our other medal of honor recipients who are here. and to all of the special forces who are here. we are extraordinarily grateful to you. this is obviously an award for individual heroism, but i'm glad we're able to make the broader point. we are so grateful for your service to our nation. thank you very much, everybody. god bless. god bless america. >> the conclusion of another very special ceremony at the white house. the medal of honor recipient, a young man, 36-year-old navy senior chief edward byers, the president now instructing the crowd there to go for the celebration. saying in this ceremony that we as americans can sleep more peacefully in our beds because of patriots like chief byers jr.
joining me now, medal of honor recipient and msnbc military analyst colonel jack jacobs. he noted because of the nature of the s.e.a.l. team and the fact that we don't learn a lot about their work, this has been extraordinary to see this play out before our eyes. in an interview, chief byers says, i have lived my entire career a very private life. we don't talk about what we do, and this honor carries with it some obligations that i need to carry out. but speaking about just the fact that we don't know a lot about the s.e.a.l. team, but we heard of this extraordinary act to save an american doctor on december 8, 2012. >> yeah, it's interesting that chief byers now can't be operational anymore. they won't let medal of honor recipients do anything more dangerous than applying staples to paper. and the days of when i went back to vietnam after i was decorated, because i spoofed the
army about it, those days are long over. so chief byers is not particularly happy that his next assignment is in the pentagon. so he would much rather be out with his fellow s.e.a.l.s and out actually making a difference in the field, but he can't be anymore. chief byers' only as you heard, the first living recipient from the s.e.a.l.s of the medal of honor since vietnam. and he is only the 78th living recipient we have. when i was decorated, there were about 385 recipients. now there are 78. and as you suggest, the responsibilities are not insubstantial. i remember when the first dinner i attended, they get together medal of honor recipients. jimmy do little, who led the raid on tokyo in 1942, took me aside just after i had been
decorated and he put his arm around my shoulder and said, young man, you're no longer jack jabbes. you're jack jacobs medal of honor recipient and you have to act accordingly. i think chief byers feels the weight of that now. >> you see that in his face, and we have seen that similar look when we have talked afterthese ceremonies from the young men who bear this great responsibility to carry on, and they do it so admirably. it's been absolutely incredible to see this viewpoint from a s.e.a.l. team member and also having two others in that audience as well today. so yes, another extraordinary day, and thank you again, colonel, for joining me, as always, for this, and thank you as always for your incredible service for this country and putting us before yourself. and we greatly appreciate it. thank you. gr you bet. my honor. >> we'll talk more politics of the day and get you updated on the campaign trail and more details on the back and forth. of course, affecting the republican party right now. we'll be right back. is growing,
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lot of reaction coming in today after donald trump refused to disavow the support of david duke and a kkk during a live interview this weekend. he's also fighting back and giving more details on what he says was the problem with his interview. joining me now is katrina pierson, national spokesperson for the trump campaign. we know mr. trump is out on the campaign trail. he was on the "today" show, asked about this interview. before we get to what he said on the "today" show, let me play again for our audience who may not have seen it, the cnn interview with donald trump. let's play it. >> will you unequivocally condemn david duke and say you dont want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election? >> just so you understand, i don't know anything about david duke, okay. i don't know anything about what you're talking about with white spremsy or white supremacists. i don't know. i mean, i don't know. did he endorse me?
or what's going on? because you know, i know nothing about david duke. i know nothing about white supremacists, so you're asking me a question that i'm supposed to be talking about people i know nothing about. >> but i guess the question from the antidefamation league is even if you don't know about their endorsement, there are these groups and individuals endorsing you. would you say unequivocally, you condemn them and don't want their support? >> well, i have to look at the group. i mean, i don't know what group you're talking about. you wouldn't want me to condemn a group i know nothing about. i have to look. if you would send me a list of the groups, i'll do research on them and certainly i would disavow if i thought there was something wrong. >> the ku klux klan? >> you may have groups that are fine and it would be unfair. give me a list of the groups and i'll let you know. >> i'm talking about david duke and the ku klux klan here, but -- >> honestly, i don't know david duke. i don't believe i have ever met him. i'm pretty sure i didn't meet him and i don't know anything about him. >> that's the interview this morning on "today," donald trump
said he had a lousy earpiece. he was in florida, and he could not hear. is he telling the truth? >> you know, i think so, considering what happened on friday. and cnn was there. so it's not like cnn didn't know that mr. trump had unequivocally disavowed an endorsement from david duke. but here's where the problem comes in. there was confusion because right after that, there were reports that came out saying that david duke in fact did not endorse donald trump. so when he goes on the sunday show and is asked again about the anti-defamation league, there was confusion because there was no talk about the anti-defamation league or any group for that matter endorsing donald trump. that's why he said i don't know what you're talking about. let me know what you're talking about before i make a decision. that's where the confusion came in. >> he also said he does not know david duke. you point out that, yes, in texas, he said i disavow, and he kind of said it in this flippant way. the question is what happened between that statement of disavowing david duke and this interview with jake tapper.
there are those who believe here that someone got to donald trump and said, you need this vote. you need some of the angriest parts of this party to put you through. i ask this because we're now uncovering nbc in 2000, donald trump said, david duke is a bigot, a racist, a problem. i mean, this is not exactly the people you want. how do you go from saying that in 2000, from the man who says he has the most incredible memory, to saying yesterday, he doesn't know david duke? which is the truth? does he know david duke, the quote, bigot, the person that's a racist and a problem, or does he not? >> well, i think the identifying mechanism is a fact that that was 16 years ago with the reform party, which was not brought up. >> the identifying mechinism is does he know david duke or not? did he not say that? >> my point, 16 years ago, the name was associated with a different organization.
which is why this time he says he did not know which organization he was talking about. >> he didn't know this was the david duke from the kkk? he thought -- he called david duke, katrina, from the reform party, a racist, a problem. >> yes. >> why did he call david duke from the reform party a racist? >> because he didn't know what jake was asking him about when he was talking about the anti-defamation league. but i will say this. the conspiracy that someone tried to tell him that he needed that vote, i have to remind everybody, a poll that just came out today, donald trump is almost at 50%, which means every single candidate in the race combined can't even compete. so why would there be any conspiracy to add more votes? he's been winning handily. >> that's not absurd because he's losing in texas. marco rubio is picking up steam, and there are also talks in the party of a brokered convention. every vote counts until the end. you can shake your head all you want, but we know it's not a done deal. what i'm trying to get to the heart of is whether or not --
>> mr. trump is going to do very well in the south. there is no conspiracy. i know the republican party would like to push that push th idea because they haven't been able to take him down yet. why not join the liberal media and try to paint donald trump as a racist, right? it's not going to work. there is no conspiracy. donald trump was being honest when he said he couldn't hear everything jake was saying because he did in fact unequivocally disavow david duke's endorsement and david duke himself came out and said "i never endorsed trump and that should be the story." >> i understand what you're saying about reports. the issue is in 2000 when donald trump was quoted as calling david duke a bigot, a racist, a problem, fast forward to now when he's run issing for president he has a great amount of support to your point in the south. many of these very people who may identify with rhetoric from david duke who went on social
media to support donald trump now he doesn't know the difference between david duke the reparty candidate and david duke the kkk leader. do you understand why it sounds absurd? >> i understand why it's being pulled out of context because mr. trump disavowed david duke the individual 16 years ago with the reform party, yes, he said those things, they were talking about the anti-definition league which is why mr. trump kept saying "i don't know those groups, i don't know what you're talking about." that's why we're having this discussion unequivocally disavo david duke. >> my colleague joe scarborough wrote an op-ed and says "he kinds like a dixiecrat from the 1950s than the nominee the gop leads four years by losing hispanics 47%, black americans by 87% and asian americans by 47%. the answer give on the jake tapper according to joe, he
believes this is disqualifying for donald trump as a candidate. do you believe it is in. >> it wasn't disqualifying when a klansman leader did endorse barack obama in 2008. a sitting senator in the united states up until 2010. >> you're talking about senator robert byrd who disavowed his own relationship with the k k. >> so why would it be a disqualifier? >> let me explain why. senator byrd disavowed his relationship with the kkk. >> apparently david duke. >> david duke has not. david duke endorsed -- we're talking about the endorsement of trump here. i think you're trying to conflate these two things. >> there is no endorsement from david duke to donald trump: does donald trump know who david duke is? >> he does now, absolutely. >> he didn't yesterday? >> he did not know what jake tapper was talking about when it a "time" the anti-definition league. >> did he know who david duke was yesterday?
>> i'm telling you he did not know jake tapper, combining the anti-definition league and david duke, he did not know what jake was referring to because the reports that came out after the fact saying there was no endorsement. >> you're saying he believes david duke was a member of the anti-definition league. i'm not clear. does he know who david duke is or not? >> he does know who david duke is, yes. >> thank you, katrina. >> you're welcome. we're moments away from a donald trump rally in virginia. a big super tuesday state and a state where he holds a double digit lead over senator cruz and senator rubio. these are live pictures from a ted cruz rally under way in dallas right now. the candidate has not taken the stage. this is the first of three big interviews for cruz in his home state which has 155 delegates up for grabs. cruz is leading in most of the polls. joining me now, msnbc political analyst and washington bureau chief for "mother jones," david korn. thank you so much for joining.
it's clear ted cruz is still worried about texas right now. >> he has to be. if you can't win your home state, how can you win any place else? this is the alamo for him. he was tied with trump a few days ago. the latest poll has him up ahead. but if he can't beat trump then he loses any rationale for his campaign. i have to say the one thing that katrina just didn't tell you was that david duke says "i don't endorse trump but people should vote for him." so duke is, indeed, endorsing him and telling people to vote for him and the big question here is why? if you're donald trump, why would a kkk white supremacist guy want people to vote for you? that's the question donald trump needs to be asked. >> the question is also being asked, a lot of attention has been placed on his candidacy, trump, in the media. now you have reports saying listen, what about his supporters? what are we learning about his supporters. the new people he is to his
point bringing into the fold. gub gutierrez. -- gabe gutierrez was out speaking with trump supporters. let's play what they said. >> david and duke and people like that they come out from under the rocks all the the time around this time of the year. it's got nothing to do with donald trump. we're all americans. we need to stop with the race baiting. me and my friend today, we have to stop with the racist thing. we all americans. >> let me be clear here, the majority of donald trump supporters are not african-american. i don't know how how many african-americans were in that building but that is one person that we have chosen to cut that sound from david. >> listen donald trump has been
bashing undocumented immigrants, he's called for a ban on muslims, he is riling up all forms of bigotry and hatred and praying on people's frustration and anger, some of it justified and that's the essence of his campaign. and so when david duke and others get out there and the fringy people and he had confederate types working for him and supporting him in south carolina, that's not a surprise. they are responding to his exploitation of hate and bigotry. >> especially when you look at social media and his choice to retweet certain quotes and certain people. is this conversation can go on and on. nevertheless we're hear more from the candidates. we had that beautiful ceremony celebrating the greatness of this country earlier in h hour. i'm tamron hall. see you tomorrow. i'll be back in texas on the road. we're heading out for a super
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and click to activate your within. right now on "andrea mitchell reports." gutter talk, the political discourse enters the rude of the crude and disgusting while threatening to fracture the republican party. >> friends do not let friends vote for con artists. >> you know, little rubio. he's a very nasty guy. >> i don't understand why his hands are the size of someone who's 5'2". and you know what they say about men with small hands? >> he's a nervous basket case. he was putting on makeup with a towel. >> then he asks for a full length mirror. maybe to make sure his pant weren't wet. >> it's marco rubio! >> he doesn't sweat because his pores are clogged from the spray tan he uses. donald is not going to make america great, he's going to make america orange!
tone deaf. the republican front-runner refusing to disavow a former kkk leader and blaming it only a technical malfunction. >> i don't know anything about david duke, okay? i don't know anything about what you're talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. let me tell you, i'm sitting in a house in florida with a very bad ear piece that they gave me and you could hardly hear what he was saying but what i heard was "various groups" and i don't mind disavowing anybody and i disavowed david duke and i disavowed him the day before at a major news conference. >> i don't care how bad the ear piece is, ku klux klan comes through pretty clearly and he refused to criticize it. >> and rocky road. bernie sanders facing down tough new delegate math after a devastating defeat in south carolina. >> well, we got decimated that's what happened among older african-americans it was pathetic from our perspective. but i think we're going to do
well on super tuesday, we'll do well in many states after that and we look forward to those state-by-state struggles. and good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington where what's left of the republican establishment is reeling, bracing for a battle over whether to try to wrestle the party back from donald trump. ted cruz and marco rubio are finally taking him on, but how? today's "washington post" headlines said it all. "spray tans, pants wetting and little hands: the gop race goes into the gutter. "and then there's the kkk with donald trump on the defensive after being asked about support from david duke and the ku klux klan. >> i have to look at the group. i mean, job what group you're talking about. you wouldn't want me to condemn a group i know nothing about. i have to look. if you would send me a list of
the groups, i'll do research and i would disavow if i thought there was something wrong. >> the ku klux klan. >> you may have groups that are totally fine and it would be unfair. give me a list of the groups and i'll let you know. >> i'm just talking about david duke and the ku klux klan. >> i don't know david duke. i don't believe i've ever met him. i'm pretty sure i didn't and i don't know anything about him. >> now her here's trump trying to explain that to savannah guthrie on "today." >> i'm saying to myself, how many times do i have to continue to disavow people and the question was asked about david duke and various groups and i don't know who the groups are. i said would you do me a favor and tell me the groups? he was unable to tell me that. >> he said "i'm just talking about david duke and the ku klux klan here." >> and you said "honestly, i don't know david duke." >> i'm sitting in a house in florida with a very bad ear piece that they gave me and you could hardly hear what he was saying. >> joining me now is nbc's jacob
rascon live at a trump rally in radford, virginia, guantanamo bay gutierrez in atlanta and hallie jackson in san antonio where ted cruz will be holding an event this afternoon. jacob, first to you. donald trump about to speak there. this may not have an impact with his supporters but certainly party elders, those left, are very concerned about the direction this is going and marco rubio is trying to make a big play on it. >> we're told donald trump is at radford university, he'll come up to the podium at any moment. thousands of people here to see him. we spoke many of those first in line and some of them admitted they had been following the david duke conversation and that they were disappointed that trump didn't come down harder on david duke, disavowing him. but they say they're willing to give them a pass. i spoke to another undecided first time voter who said she was troubled by the david duke conversation but largely as you talk, of course, to the crowd as
you might expect many of them say this is a made up controversy because donald trump had disavowed david duke and he was asked again, why was he asked again, they say, he was already disavowing him. we spoke to many voters here, many of them dozens and dozens are first time voters and others, i spoke to many people, in fact, today, six, seven, eight people who say they supported and voted for barack obama but now they believe that the person who can bring real change is donald trump. one very interesting conversation i had with one african-american gentleman from brooklyn, he said he's always been a democrat but he remembers how donald trump supported his basketball team when he was younger and he said he's now willing to say that he really believed donald trump is not a racist but can unify the country. some of what you might expect from his crowd here. >> exactly what you would expect from the true blue supporters there. gabe gutierrez in atlanta.
let's talk about martin luther king. sorry, losing my voice. as marco rubio was losing his voice earlier today. rubio keyed on this right away, talking about the party of lincoln and ronald reagan, a party he says donald trump does not represent. >> that's right, marco rubio's campaign is trying to label donald trump as a con artist and laying out the consequences, they say, starkly. saying it could be the end of the republican party if he is the nominee. this morning he went further than he has over the past couple days, if you can believe that. he likened droump a dog chasing a car and saying if voters choose him as the nominee it would be like marrying trump to spite your parents. it was an incredible line of attack coming from someone that a few weeks ago was trying to stay above the fray and trying to attack hillary clinton and bernie sanders saying he would not attack fellow republicans but as you've been mentioning
over the past few days since that debate thursday, he's hammered donald trump talking about everything from his spray tan to hair force one as he calls his campaign plane and talking about trump putting on makeup to hide his sweat mustache. it's incredible, andrea. people are wonder iing what brought in on. but they think if they need to play part of this circus to get into this that discussion of foreign policy, substantive issues, that needs to happen. i've spoke within several voters over the past few days at these rallies and they lament that the tone of this campaign has got to this point but they say if this is what marco rubio needs do to take on donald trump they support it. rubio very busy here for this rally. he has a total of five rallies today over four states.
he's hoping to do well until a few states, virginia, minnesota, but the crucial test will be march 15 in florida. >> thanks, gabe. in texas right now a must-win state for ted cruz he's speaking right now. let's listen to the candidate. >> abuse and take advantage of american workers and suddenly style yourself a champion for american workers. [ cheers and applause ] if i'm elected president we will secure the border. [ cheers and applause ] we will end illegal immigration. we will end taxpayer funding for sanctuary cities. and we will end welfare benefits for those here illegally.
[ cheers and applause ] and what we are going to see is more and more jobs for american citizens, for legal immigrants, we'll see wages going up and when we repeal obamacare, when we abolish the irs, small businesses are going to explode. millions of high-paying jobs, wages going up, young people coming out of school having two, three, four, five job offers. twloed cruz who is speaking dallas. hallie jackson, it strikes me that ted cruz has tried to keep it to issues in his attack mode in contrast to marco rubio who's gotten personal and gotten down to the level of donald trump as both of them desperately trying to slow the bandwagon for donald trump before super tuesday. haley, texas looks good for ted cruz. he has to win there, right? >> you're right. and his tone and the method of attacks he's been using against donald trump. you heard a little bit of it right there at the top of his
speech talking about trump and his interactions with american workers and why ted cruz thinks he would be better in that regard. that said, andrea, this is a line of attack that cruz has been keeping up for weeks now and while it helped him in iowa, it has simply not been effective for him in some of those other states. it does remain to be seen whether marco rubio's more personal insulting tactics will be more useful for him or more effective for rubio. and i think that's where you're seeing super tuesday come down to the importance of this race. how can you slow down donald trump if you're marco rubio or if you're ted cruz. you talked about texas, it's essential for cruz to win here. we have new numbers that highlight this. we have an ad-spending analysis that shows that ted cruz and his super pac allies are outspending marco rubio in southern super tuesday states by a factor of nearly 2-1. focusing both cruz and the super pacs on georgia, tennessee, texas. the campaign also saying to keep an eye on oklahoma and arkansas, other states where they think
cruz can play. he's a long shot in those states, andrea, but he looks potentially strong in texas where new polling shows him up by double digits over donald trump. a lot to watch over these next 24 hours. >> thanks to you, hallie jackson and gabe gutierrez and jake rascon as well. the wild card in the republican race could be john kasich, rejecting a report that mitt romney wanted him to drop out now before ohio even votes where he's governor and clear the way for a stronger alternative to go head to head with trump. >> i don't want to get into private conversations with people but that never happened in terms of mitt trying to tell me what i need to do with my career. that's not what it was about and i've had a number of conversations with him and a lot of e-mail exchanges and we just have to leave it there. at the end of the day each of these candidates should be able to win their own home state. i'm going to win ohio but if i don't win ohio, ball game over. >> reporter: former u.s.
attorney general alberto gonzalez is a john kasich supporter and joins me now from nashville. very good to see you again, thanks very much, general gonzalez. let's talk about john kasich. it's all or nothing, ohio. but what about the argument that mitt romney and others are making privately, get out now so that either marco rubio or ted cruz, most likely marco rubio in terms of the establishment, can organize, can gather support and go up against donald trump before it's too late from there perspective. >> well, from my perspective. governor kasich is a stronger alternative. so people are looking at a strong alternative. it seems to me it's a governor from an influential state of ohio. >> tell me why. he's in single digits most places. >> i understand that. a lot of work needs to be done, a lot of ground needs to be made up but if you look at the record objectively, as a sitting governor of an influential state, as someone who's worked in congress for many years, i think he appreciates the importance of being able to work with congress as a president in order to make a difference, to get things done for the american
people and as i listen to the debates and the campaigning, from my perspective -- he's the only adult left standing in this presidential race on the republican side and so i'm hopeful that the american public will give him a second look and come to the same realization that i've come to and that is that he is the best qualified at this juncture to step into the oval office day one and serve effectively as president. >> where can he win besides ohio, assuming he were to -- is to win ohio. >> well, let's see what happens tomorrow in these states and see how it affects the other campaigns, and of course, this is outside of my lane. i'm a lawyer, former attorney general and judge but what i look at is i try to picture someone in the oval office making a decision about a supreme court justice. i was there with president obama when he had to deliberate over a supreme court pick. i was in the situation room when president bush had to make decisions about sending men and women into war. i was on the oval office porch in september 11, 2001, and
watched as marine one brought back the president so i have some sense of the kind of special person it takes to serve as president of the united states. when i look at john kasich and listen to him talk an issue uz that resonate across all communities, like immigration, to me they make sense and i think he's the kind of leader we need today for our country. >> what do you make of the republican party? there are reports mitch mcconnell is talking to the republican senate caucus tuesday, desperation, basically, about a strategy of why has the republican party been unable to stop the donald trump train? and what can they do now. >> well, of course, that's really a question for the american people, isn't it? a lot of frustration. i think we have failed leadership in washington today both in the white house and in the congress. i think it's a question of people not respecting each other. when you don't respect someone it's more difficult to work with that person. >> you mean failed leadership?
the republican party in congress? >> i think it works both ways. i think the white house needs to work with the republican congress. the republican congress needs to work with the white house. we operate in a systems of checks and balances. the framers intended tra that the federal government have limited power. >> but what about the republican party? as someone who's witnessed what it takes to be commander-in-chief, what about the republican party as you look at your nomination process? >> this is what the american -- i can't speak for the american people. i have a vote like everyone else. i have a voice like everyone else. i can make my views known. at the end of the day, the american people will decide what it is they want out of the person that sits in the oval office. >> and what about donald trump's failure to even respond when asked about the ku klux klan. he does know who david duke is, he wrote an editorial back in 2000 against david duke. what about his seeming reluck tabs to -- even though he
disavowed it in an offhanded way but to respond to what the kkk represents. >> look, i condemn the kkk. i'm not a fan of david duke, of course, but as to how donald trump is going to respond to that or dealle with that, i'll leave that up to the trump campaign and the american people will make a judgment as to whether or not they believe he's a racist or not. whether or not they believe he's an add have had a of supporter of the kkk and david duke. we'll see how that plays out starting tomorrow. >> if kasich doesn't make it, are you going to support donald trump if he turns out to be the nominee or should this episode with the kkk be disqualifying? >> well, the american people will decide whether or not it's a disqualification. it will be the american voters. and as to whether or not born governor kasich will make it, i have hope and we' what happens is. >> alberto gonzalez, thanks for
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uh- uh-uh. >> i'm going to need your help here in oklahoma on tuesday. i'm going to need your help to win the democratic nomination [ cheers and applause ] and i'm going need your help to win the general election. [ cheers and applause ] bernie sanders in oklahoma city rallying his troops for super tuesday and beyond. despite having been pummelled by hillary clinton in south
carolina on saturday, the delegate math after tomorrow may preclude any path to the nomination for the vermont senator but he's got plenty of money to keep going. i'm joined by alex sites wald in boston where hillary clinton is about to appear. alex, you've got the strategy down, hillary clinton is about to be introduced, she now has proved her strength in the southern states, now she's trying to at least touch base in new england which is bernie sanders' home territory. >> absolutely right. andrea, you nailed it. she is hoping for a clean sweep of the south and i think the big victory in south carolina helped her but if fact that we are here in downtown boston, the old south meeting hall, a historic building and a lot of people lining up for her. that's a good sign for hillary clinton. she is coming to bernie sanders territory here. this is one of the only five states where he's advertising.
i've talked to people who say that's a part of what's going into them liking her so we'll see her come out here. a new poll out last night from suffolk university that showed up up eight points, that's a good number for her. she's been tied. the clinton campaign telling me they expect it to be very, very tight here. a lot of college students, a lot of white people who typically go for bernie sanders so they're expecti ining -- this is the fourth-biggest super tuesday. 91 delegates at stake. she has the big three in her column so if she can put massachusetts away, andrea, that would be a very, very good night for hillary clinton. >> indeed. and a lot of questions a to why bernie sanders has not played in virginia and tennessee and other states where he might have had more traction, he has limited himself to minnesota, oklahoma, colorado, minnesota and colorado being caucus states that should be good for him. vermont and massachusetts. it seems a narrower map than what he might have tried for. >> absolutely.
you can look at his travel schedule. he's playing on defense. he did stop in texas but he's spending a lot of time in minnesota, colorado, of course vermont where he's going to be tomorrow night for super tuesday that's the sign of a campaign that realizes they won't do well in alabama or tennessee or georgia. they're trying to lock down the states they hope they can win and focus on those without trying to play in elsewhere. andrea? >> alex sites wald in boston waiting if for candidate. there is a candidate on stage in radford, virginia. his name is donald trump. let's listen >> democratic ride is a much easier ride. but if i pick up new york or if i pick up michigan it's over, folks. it's over. [ cheers and applause ] it's over. we're going to do great with hispanics, people will be surprised. we won with the hispanics 46% so people will be surprised. we'll do phenomenonly with the
african-americans. they'll be phenomenon. we're going to have large numbers of people coming over. you know they used to call him the reagan democrats. now i'll still keep -- keep going with the reagan democrats. we'll have a lot of people, a lot of independents come over. if it's trump against hillary clinton -- [ boos ] can you believe it? honestly, she should not be allowed to run. [ cheers and applause ] she should not be allowed to run. now bernie sanders is over. you know, he took a big beating. [ boos ] he took a big beating. but you look at south carolina. so they just lost south carolina, she had a good victory over him. i drew and the republicans drew
so much more, so many more votes, like double and they went down because there's no enthusiasm for hillary. none. we went way up because whether people like me or not there is enthusiasm, that i can tell you. there is enthusiasm. big, big, big enthusiasm. so it's been going along well. it's been a nasty, nasty deal. when i said i'd run for office, i'll do with real estate people, i'll do with people much tougher, much, much tougher than the people i'm dealing with. but they're more honest in a certain way. politicians are very dishonest people. i've never seen such deception. i've never seen so many lies. these are dishonest people. i hate to say it. it's sad. it's sad. all talk, no action. i build a great business. i file may papers with the federal elections commission. everybody has it, these people
back there have it. everybody is impressed. a lot of people said -- number one they said i'd never run. then i ran. then he said he'll sign what they call form a. that's where you literally signed your life away. i signed form a. then they said he'll never put in his financials because maybe he's not as rich as people think. so i put in my financials which showed i'm much richer, the company is phenomenal. [ cheers and applause ] it's phenomenal. the company is incredible and frankly the press didn't have that much to say. the first day they said they'd never seen at the federal level -- they've never seen that many people trying to look at papers. so the papers are great. low debt, phenomenal asset, some of the great assets, big cash flow and i put them in and the reason i tell you that is because that's the kind of thinking we need in this country. that's what we need.
we have $19 trillion in debt, going to $21 trillion and that's the kind of thinking, we have to make great deals. i put in my papers. people came, the press went through every inch, they said wow, this is amazing, we didn't expect this. the company is much bigger, much stronger and great. and then i have to listen to a little guy like rubio say "oh, he's a con man, he's a con man." [ boos ] think about it. it's so insulting. he had no choice. he had to come up with something because he's getting creamed in the poll polls. he's 20 points down in florida. in florida where he comes from this guy couldn't be elected dog catcher right now if he ran. [ laughter ] no, think of it. he's defrauded the people of florida. he's defrauded them. he's defrauded them in a lot of ways. maybe he's defrauded the republican party building driveways with their money. they catch him. he builds a driveway and other things and they say "you're not supposed to do that." "i'm allowed to."
they said "we caught you." he says "oh, i used the wrong credit card, i'll pay you back." chris christie would take it differently than that. speaking of chris, i was standing on the dais a few weeks ago and i watched -- i call him lightweight. i watched lightweight marco rubio standing right here and i watched this and i saw a meltdown. i said what am i watching here? we have millions of people watching and and i saw an almost complete meltdown. in fact, i was prepared to catch him when he fell. i thought he was going to fall. they asked him a question, he gave the "barack obama" answer, right. and he gave an answer and then he gave the same answer again because he's like a robot. you wind him up and he talks. we call him the robot. well, we call him the lightweight. but we call him the lightweight robot. he gave the answer the first time, gave it a second time, gave it a third time. the fifth time i said "there's something wrong."
then i looked. he was soaking wet like he just got out of a swimming pool with his clothes on it was honestly -- i'll be honest, it was a sad thing to see. but you can't have this kind of a person negotiating with the chinese, negotiating with putin. can you imagine? he's going see putin, putin is a smart guy. he's sitting down and marco walks in and he's soaking wet, exhausted, putin's going to look at him and say "what the hell's wrong with that guy?" when the republicans brilliantly picked him to give the answer too obama in the state of -- i guess one of the speeches. by the way, a very important speech. so obama got up, did his thing and now we have our response, right? and he's speaking and you see there's something wrong with him and he's speaking and then he goes totally off camera during live television and grabs a bottle of water with the label on it. now unless he had a piece of
that company, i think this was a terrible thing to do. if he had a piece of the company we can all understand that. and he starts chugging water. nobody haas ever seen anything like that before. so we can not have choke artists running our country. the guy is a choke artist. we can not have choke artists running our country, our country in trouble. our country in trouble. ted cruz is a smarter person than rubio but he's so strident. folks, it's not going to work, okay? it's not going to work. he thinks it's going to work. we call him lying ted. he'll listen to me say something, he'll get up someplace else and he will say the exact opposite of what i said. for instance, i'm very strong on the second amendment. he says "donald trump is totally opposed to the second amendment." but the people that have been with me know for years. i am and have been from the
beginning against obamacare. we'll repeal it and replace it. [ cheers and applause ] >> donald trump in radford, virginia, taking on marco rubio and now ted cruz. joining me is former republican governor of utah michael levitt, a top advisor to mitt romney's 2012 presidential campaign. governor, thank you very much. good to see you. you saw a built of it but tell me what is the republican party going to do? there's talk that mitt romney talked to kasich about getting out but it seems is there a republican establishment left that can stop this runaway train? >> well, there is no smoking room where a handful of people make this decision. this is a political marketplace and the process is going to play out and it will be what it is. people will decide. if people like what they hear they'll nominate donald trump. if they don't they'll look for a different candidate. this is the state of politics right now let's just say i keep
waiting for a reality i recognize to show up and it just hasn't. maybe this is what we're up to. >> how do you feel about his response when asked about david duke and the ku klux klan this weekend? >> i haven't followed that very closely. i think it's just obviously someone makes a statement others can jump on they will and i think it's one of those. >> does it trouble you in terms of the republican party and the needs of the republican party to reach out to people of color in any general election campaign. >> it does. the whole issue -- i think it's symptomatic of the overall state we're in. we're alienating the hispanic population, i think we're obviously polarizing in ways that need not but, listen, that's -- i think the most important part of this story isn't so much donald trump. there have always been big personalities in politics. it attracts people, big personalities. there have always been people with big egos.
but the system has ways of constraining them. what's really unique here is that you've got a very large percentage of the republican population, at least, opting for attitude as opposed to looking for aptitude and donald trump has a very big attitude and he's portraying it and it's winning for him right now. >> what will you if he is the republican nominee? >> i think there's a lot of republicans saying i'd sure prefer somebody else and they'll cross that bridge when they come to it. it isn't just a president that gets elected, it's a party and a team of several thousand people who go to washington. it's the person who selects the supreme court. we're interested in having a republican elected for all of those rps. but there's a lot of folks right now troubled by the state of the party and the politics generally. >> there's certainly a lot of conversation about mitt romney and other party leaders who are concerned. you know mitt romney well, we're
talking to you today from utah. what options are left? you say it's up to republican voters. but mitch mcconnell and others are suggesting the whole -- the senate could go down if the top of the ticket is donald trump. >> i think that's true and something republicans need to consider. i think what we're actually seeing is a quite profound change in the role that party's play in the lives of people. parties control the mechanism but not the outcomes and you have people now don't depend on parties for their information. they don't depend on parties for the way they interact. there's social media and different kind of ways. i think we're seeing a significant historical change in the role parties play in american politics.
it's not going to play out this year but it's migrating and we're seeing part of that. you can conceive of a situation where all four candidates decide to stay in the race too keep donald trump from getting the 1237 delegates required and they get a chance to fight at the convention. that would have been considered an outlandish thought before but it's not probable but possible you can see candidates combine forces earlier to seize the momentum back from trump. this is a very different race." it's not a reality most of us recognize. >> and you're talking about the end of a party system perhaps because of social media and the way candidates like donald trump have used social media and television and other online
opportunities that it's a new structure. >> it is. and, look, fewer and fewer people are participating in the party structure itself. those people tend to be the more polarized factions who get into that process and try to control it. but the vast majority of americans are not getting their information through party mechanisms or meetings the way they might have 50 or 75 or 100 years ago. they're getting it from social media, they're getting it from cable, they're getting it from lots of different ways so we begin to see millennials who will have the attitude of one party on one issue and another party on another. i think that's who candidates with big personalities tend to attract. this is a very different environment we've seen before. >> an environment that doesn't work for someone like mitt romney. >> well, it obviously didn't and the question is what kind of
president will it produce? are we -- is this -- are we choosing a president like we do american ie alcoho "american idol"? is that the system and what kind of democracy will it produce? there are a lot of people legitimately worried not just about this election but what does the nature of our politics mean about the future and how are people going to engage in a way that will produce order? there was an interesting article by david brooks recently talking about how societies are control ed they are by compromising democracies where that's a good thing or dictatorships. and i'm not here to endorse that. i'm just saying it's a line of thinking where we're seeing people look for strong men, strong women in politics with big personalities who can rally them to a cause. i tell you this, if donald trump
is in fact elected president, he's going to be very, very surprised at how hard it is. and those who have supported and bl promoted his presidency are going to be surprised at how disappointed they are at the result. i remember sitting in the oval office with president bush after the election when barack obama was coming in on this hope and change platform and i remember him saying "he's going to find out this is a lot harder than it looks." and i think we'll find out from donald trump that if he were to be elected it's a loat harder than it looks and those who have great hope and aspiration on the unfillable promises will be quite disappointed and that adds to a cynicism that isn't good for the country. >> governor mike leavitt, thank you very much. thanks for sharing your views today. >> my pleasure, thank you,
andr andrea. this is hillary clinton addressing the overflow crowd on the streets of boston outside her rally set to begin soon at the old south meeting house. clinton had this today-t say i , springfield, massachusetts, and d.o.d.'s endorsement. >> if i am so fortunate enough to be the nominee, i will turn my attention to whomever the republicans decide to nominate, and i can tell you this, one advantage i have is they've been after me for 25 years and i'm still standing! [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm joined by hillary clinton supporter congressman joaquin castro, thank you very much, congressman, for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> do you think after those results saturday night there is a path for bernie sanders going forward? he has the money to continue, as he said, to new york and california but that means continuing through till june. >> sure. he still has energy in his
campaign. he has supporters and i'm sure he'll go out and campaign but hillary clinton is in a very strong position to win this thi thing. >> he's already going after her on benghazi and e-mails, he said he'll hit her on the e-mails every single day. how do you debate someone like this when you're hiblg? >> he has turned this race into a farce. he's turned american politics into something incredibly ugly like we've never seen before. his refusal even to disavow the kkk yesterday with jake tapper, this is something we've never witnessed before in american politics and i do think if he makes it into the general election americans will reject him. >> donald trump's been claiming he's got support among hispanics because of the marginal victory amo among hispanics in the exit poll. what do you think of that from the standpoint of your community
if you could take off your democratic hat and say how the latino community would feel about donald trump. >> people are worried about him. they've heard about his rhetoric. they've heard him call immigrants rapists and murders. i've never come across more latinos who have not been involved in plux who have told me over the last several months that they're going to street for the first time or encourage their family members to vote, most especially if trump is the nominee. they were worried about of the language coming out of ted cruz and other bus donald trump took it to an inhumane level. >> to that point, two quick points, hillary clinton's failure to generate support among white voters and young voters. and the turnout is down among democrats. admittedly barack obama was a big, big fact or but the
republican turn jout so far outdistancing the democratic turn out. is there a passion gap here? >> i think what you'll see is democrats will come out for the november elections. it's true here you had two main candidates in hillary clinton and bernie sanders and so you didn't have the same large field that you had in 2008. it's trau that wherever a party has been out of power for eight years they are anxious to get to the voting booth and express their willingness and readiness to take back the white house but we've had similar things happen before. in 2000 there was less participation in in democratic primary and al gore although he didn't become president still won the popular vote. >> indeed, we all remember back then. thank you very much, congressman, good to see you. coming up next, how low can they go? resorting now to down and dirty attacks. there's no sign the republican rivals will dig out of the
>> we are talking about a man who has filed for bankruptcy four times. we can't afford for a man to go in as president and bankrupt our country. d.c.'s already doing that. we don't need someone encouraging them to do that! >> south carolina governor nikki haley pinch hitting for marco rubio who she's endorsed. his voice is failing him. joining me for our daily fix, chris cillizza, msnbc and "washington post" fix blog and "washington post" correspondent ann gearan. first to you, annie, this republican race is something
that we have -- the likes of which we've never seen. let me play for you chuck todd and donald trump. we heard about the kkk but let's look at the mussolini retweet. let's watch. from "meet the press." >> that's a famous mussolini quote, you retweeted it. did you like the quote. you know it's lumussolini. >> it's a very good quote. a very interesting quote. >> you want to be associated with a farrist? >> no, i want to be associated with interesting quotes. >> that kind of encapsulates the campaign. the twitter campaign, the social media campaign and where we go from here. >> donald trump is perfectly capturing and tapping into a very powerful and very real strain in the republican party. new research on behalf of democrats talks about just how well he has done that and one of those strains is a very
nationalistic -- the critics say jingoistic rah-rah america strain which is the sort of thing that a retweet of mussolini, a phrase we never would have imagined ourselves ever actually uttering, can actually be a part of the political discourse here. to your question of where we go, he looks on path to become the nominee if the next states goty t way they look to go. and it will be a general election matchup against hillary clinton. >> and what kind of matchup is that, chris cillizza? i would posit that it would be very difficult for her to retain dignity and debate him without resorting to the marco rubio tactics which we've seen have so far not been successful. >> with rubio it feels as though every other tactic, the jeb bush dismissive of him, the ignore him, nothing has worked so i think marco rubio figures can you outtrump trump.
the answer is no. i'm interesting to see a general election. "interesting" times a thousand. every conventional political measure we have andrea would suggest she would start that as a considerable favorite, not necessarily because of her but because of him. that said, every conventional political measure we have would never, ever get us to the point where as ann rightly points out, unless there's a big cataclysm, which i can't imagine what it is, that donald trump would wind up as the nominee. so i don't want to say all bets are off. i think she would start as a clear favorite but i think the writing him off as impossible to be relevant i think forgets the last eight months in politics. >> in fact, let me play devil's advocate against that narrative: you're correct. is hillary clinton has shown and the democrats have shown that
their turnout is way down. the republican turnout is up. bernie sanders has failed despite his huge crowds help has not brought new voters in, and she has a passion gap and she's not attracting white voters and younger voters, ann gearan? >> yeah, and donald trump just a few minutes ago was talking about what he h sees as the lack of enthusiasm for her. he also said if i heard him correctly bernie sanders is finished. not quite but he's got quite a ways to go, in fact, but the idea when you get to a general election of whether democrats are going to be sufficiently motivated is a very open question for democrats. something some democratic strategists are worrying about. one thing in their favor is that if trump is the nominee that by itself could be a motivator to drive democrats to the polls.
>> and you would have bernie sanders uniting with hillary clinton and both of them giving the anti-trump message. chris cillizza, that would be a base exciting factor would it not. >> i think donald trump is probably -- if you're hillary clinton, donald trump is the best motivator of your base you could have because the truth of the matter is, we do know she struggles to motivate that base. we know that to be a fact. it was a fact in 2008, it was a fact to a lesser exsent but still now. the thing i would say andrea is if trump is the nominee, i listened to governor leavitt's interview before we came on. i found that so telling and interesting. what you saw from governor leavitt is bafflement. he has no idea what is happening within his own party at the moment. he's far from halone. he's more honest. i think if donald trump is the republican nominee, though the mike leavitts of the world organize behind someone else, in fear not that they will lose
this election but that think lose the senate. they will lose what the republican party brand is going forward no matter what happens with donald trump. now you're talking about a three-way race. it's fascinating and i don't think outside of the realm of possibility. >> chris cillizza, ann gearan, thank you so much. coming up, more from the campaign trail as we await hillary clinton at her next rally in boston. you're watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc.
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good monday afternoon to you from nashville, tennessee. i'm craig melvin, you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. we're coming to you live from music city today on this super tuesday eve. early voting records have been smashed statewide here in tennessee. more on that shortly as you take a look at that beautiful skyline. sure it's the home of honky tonk but its largest industry is health care. more than 300 health care companies call tennessee home. this state among a dozen holding primaries and caucuses tomorrow across the country on super tuesday and in spite of of a fresh controversy involving white supremacists, david duke and the kkk, donald trump looks to be headed for yet another overwhelming victory by continuing to hammer away at marco rubio and ted cruz.
>> we can not have choke artists running our country. our country is in trouble. our country in trouble. ted cruz on the other hand, ted cruz is smarter. he's a smarter person than rubio but he's so strident. folks, it's not going to work, okay? it's not going to work. back in nashvilgnasnashville, f have become more of a hotbed of activity than in tennessee. democrats and republicans are voting here tomorrow, the first contested primary for both parties since 2008 and we are coming to you today from a little spot call ed puckett's grocery and restaurant in downtown nashville, about a five-minute walk from the state capit capital. we don't smell-o-vision, but if we did, you'd love it. it's own? for its famous slow-smoked
barbecue and touts its where you can find real food, real people, and real atmosphere. a livinge ing ing a some of the enjoying a little longer lunch break than usual to be a part of our live broadcast. the country music hall of fame up the road once you cross broadway, the city's most prominent street, famous for its legendary honky tonks and if you want to be president there's a good chance you've made a stop here. earlier this morning marco rubio was in knoxville about two and a half hours away from where we are. rubio campaigning in atlanta. he's lost his voice a bit, south carolina governor nikki haley surprised him to introduce him in georgia. on the right side of your screen, hillary clinton stumping in boston we will see bernie sanders in minneapolis, minnesota. our team of correspondents
standing by across all of the super tuesday states, hallie jackson is with ted cruz in san antonio, jacob rascon is with donald trump in virginia and in atlanta, gabe gutierrez where we just showed marco rubio right now. let me start with you on the left side of the screen there, donald trump blaming the media, blaming his ear piece is specifically over that kkk flame yesterday. you've been talking to some of the supporters in the commonwealt commonwealth. >> we've been waiting to see if donald trump would mention the former kkk leader and so far he hasn't. as we talked to his supporters, many of them admitted that they thought that trump missed an opportunity to come down harder against the former kkk leader. they wished he had despite that, they also say they don't believe trump is a racist.
we talked to one undecided first-time voter who said she was troubled by what she heard, the david duke conversation but many others thought this was a media-created controversy because they said trump had already disavowed david duke and why was he asked again and again if he had already done it and of course he had these other ear piece problems he said as he told savannah guthrie. here's the original statement what he said on sunday. take a listen. >> will you unequivocally condemn david duke and say you don't want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election? >> well, just so you understand, i don't know anything about david duke. give me a list of the groups and i'll let you know. >> i'm just talking about david duke and the ku klux klan here. >> i don't know anything -- honestly, i don't know david duke. >> trump has repeatedly been interrupted during this speech by protesters, recently by a group of a dozen who for a minute or so refused to leave and some of the biggest applause
of the speech came when trump after those protesters who were african-american we escorted out, trump said "let me say one thing, all lives matter." and, of course, everybody erupted in applause. the other biggest moment of the speech has been when he reiterated that he would build a wall and who would pay for it, he asks? mexico. craig, back to you. >> jacob rascon traveling with donald trump in radford, virginia. gabe gutierrez is standing by with marco rubio but let's listen to the florida senator. rubio in georgia. >> the thing that keeps me going the most, it's not just the future of the party, it's the future of america at stake. this election is a referendum our identity as a nation. if we nominate someone like donald trump, he cannot win, he won't win.press right now,
everyone likes to beat up on them, they have a job to do. their job is ratings. they'll say "this is so disrespectful" but they'll cover it. he's had ten times more coverage than anyone else in the race combined. they're building him up. but these things about this record that i've said to you, they know all of it and more. as i speak to you, i promise you, there are democratic groups out there interviewing the victims of donald trump's scams and i promise you that the day -- it's never going to happen but if he were to become our nominee the minute he become ours nominee, the press, the democrats and all these groups will descend on him like the hounds of hell and they are going to rip him apart. they're going to rip him apart. [ cheers and applause ] honestly, you know our country, you know your neighbors, your family and your friends. do you believe they're going to
vote for someone who refuses to disavow the ku klux klan? do you think they'll vote for someone with a record like his? they're not. that means we'll lose. that means the winner of this election will be hillary clinton. because there's no turning back. someone otherthe other day saide people have vothat are voting a trump are so angry against the establishment. believe me, i know. i ran 2010 because i was angry against the establishment of my party. [ applause ] they said this is like someone who marries someone their parents hate just to get back at their parents. [ laughter ] >> i said, yeah, but the difference is if you get married to this guy you can't get divorced for four years. [ laughter ] you have to live with him for four years. i don't know if america has four more years. not in the direction we're headed now. if we lose this election -- and
we will if donald trump is the nominee -- then hillary clinton will be the next president of the united states. i say this to you without any hesitation and without any glee, a vote for donald trump tomorrow is a vote for hillary clinton in november. [ applause ] that's why i'm here to give you a choice. it's still not too late. it's not too late to get this right. it's not too late to wake up and realize the direction we're headed as a party and as a country. it's not too late to choose a different direction. and i want you to know but what that different direction looks like if i'm elected president. when i'm president of the united states for the first time in eight years you'll have a president that follows the constitution of the united states of america. [ cheers and applause ]
not a president that ignores it like barack obama. not a president like trump who says if he's president he wants to change the first amendment to make it easier to sue people that say things he doesn't like. there aren't enough judges in the world to hear all those cases. [ laughter ] when you elect me president, you'll have a gnat protects your second amendment right to defend yourself and your family again. [ applause ] when you elect me president, you'll have a president that understands that what makes america great is not our president and is not our government, it's our people. it's our families. it's our communities. [ cheers and applause ]
when i take the oath of office, unlike barack obama, i will actually mean it. and that means on -- [ scattered applause ] -- a means in my first day in officely immediately repeal every single one of barack obama's unconstitutional executive orders. [ cheers and applause ] you'll have a gnpresident that will fully embrace the free enterprise system that works. i know it works. >> and there you have marco rubio there at the intercontinental in buckhead. there in georgia. basically making the case that a vote for donald trump tomorrow in super tuesday will be a vote for hillary clinton come november in the general election. we just heard rubio on trump. let's hear donald trump again in virginia. take a listen. >> nobody else had a gun.
nobody else had a gun and they killed 130 people. tremendously horribly wounded people laying all over in different hospitals right now, many more will die. but they killed 130 people. if there were guns on the other side of the room where bullets were going the opposite direction, if a couple people in that room and you had guns and you had a gun on the hip or a gun at the ankle and you could bend down and pick up that gun and you start firing back, you wouldn't have had that problem. so we're going to -- we are going to protect our second amendment folks, we're not going anywhere, folks. we're protecting our second amendment. [ crowd chanting "usa" ]
we're not a country that wins anymore. we lose at everything. we lose at war. we can't beat isis. we lose at everything. we lose at everything. i'm asking you -- big day tomorrow -- i don't want your money. i don't need your money. i'm spending my own money. it's a lot of money, too, by the way. i used to get a kick out of saying "i spent the least and i'm in first position." i still spend the least but it's still a lot of money. i'm into it for $25 million. that's a lot. money. not a big impact but money. wouldn't it be nice -- look, i told you, education. we spend the most and we're at the bottom of the list worldwide. we spend the most per pupil, we're at the bottom of the list. wouldn't it be nice if we could do it my way? i spent the least and i'm in a landslide. we have a landslide. i have spent the least money and i have the best result by far.
you listen to the cnn poll, we're up -- i mean we are up big league, 49% to 11% and to 12% and to whatever. so here's the story. here's the story. we're going to do that with our country. we're going to do that with our country. one of the reasons i was chosen, the old post office, everybody bid on it. one of the reasons -- i'll have to tell this to lightweight senator on my right -- he's usually on my right. the reason i got it in the obama administration i got the old post office. the most coveted property in the history of the gsa, they tell me. everybody wanted it. every hotel chain wanted it on pennsylvania avenue between the capitol building and the white house. the reason i got it is number one i had a great financial statement. if you don't have a great financial statement, you can't get it because the gsa, very professional, they want to make sure it gets built. i had a great statement and a great concept and we're going to build -- we're building right now. by the way, two years ahead of schedule and under budget.
isn't that nice? nobody hears that. i'm sure the democrats will be happy to hear we're opening up in september of this year. can you believe that? right before the election. in fact, i joke, i say, hey, if i don't make it to the white house, i'm still going to live on pennsylvania avenue. right? [ laughter and applause ] i got it because i have a tremendous statement and i have a great plan. i'm under budget and ahead of schedule. the only reason i'm a little is because i'm doing marble. it will be one of the great hotels of the world. but i'm under budget and ahead of schedule. wouldn't it be nice if the united states was under budget and ahead of schedule when it does its infrastructure? [ cheers and applause ]
instead of norway or denmark and sweden where they have great schooling, wouldn't it be nice if we could be there and spend less money? we'll do so many things. we'll make our country so good again. it will be so -- it's so exciting to me. so exciting. there are so many aspects. we don't bid out pharmaceuticals, we're going to save billions and billions and billions of dollars. you have to get out tomorrow and vote. i don't want anything from you except you have to vote. we have a movement going on. this isn't normal. don't forget. don't forget. you people got here really early. when did you get here? eight hours ago something? i know, that happens all over. you people got here really early, that's why you're here. eight hours ago, nine hours ago i had it in new hampshire -- [ audience yelling ] oh, good, thank you, darling. i didn't know what the hell
happened there. [ laughter ] i thought they were the enemy but they're my friends. [ laughter ] cole coal is coming back. clean coal is coming back, 100%. thank you, i'm so glad they said it. what this president and what the epa has done to our energy and done to our coal industry is ridiculous. we sell coal, the coal mines are dying but the only coal we give is coal to china. do you think they clean the coal? believe me, they don't. >> donald trump in radford virginia, vowing the return of clean coal and telling voters there he doesn't need their money, he needs their vote
tomorrow on super tuesday there in virginia. we'll keep our eye on there on donald trump. before we took you to donald trump, of course, we were listening to marco rubio there in atlanta. gabe gutierrez has been traveling with marco rubio, a noticeably hoarse marco rubio, we should note as well. he seems to really be throwing everything he has at donald trump in these final hours before polls open there. any sense at this point whether it's making a difference? >> hey there, craig, good afternoon. that's a big question right now. i've spoken with a lot of people at this rally with others yesterday who say while they are disappointed at the tone of this gop race, they say it's absolutely necessary for marco rubio to be going after donald trump, whatever it takes, these voters say. as you mentioned and as we heard just a few minutes ago, marco rubio took the stage alongside nikki haley, his voice is beginning to get hoarse. we first noticed it this morning in tennessee but nikki haley
during this rally went after donald trump herself. let's take a listen. donald trump is everything i taught my children not to do in kindergarten. i taught my two little ones, you don't lie and make things up. /told my two little ones to do exactly what marco rubio did in the last debate. when a bully hits you, you hit that bully right back. [ cheers and applause ] >> of course, nikki haley's endorsement came in south carolina and that was seen as one of the reasons that allowed rubio to finish second. rubio hammering donald trump today continuing his attacks over the last few days. labelling donald trump a con artist.
he's going after him over the whole kkk controversy, the donald duke controversy saying he doesn't buy donald trump's excuse that it was a fault year ear piece that caused him not to disavow him. and conservative solutions has already put together an ad they're trying to get to television as soon as possible in states that are voting in march going after donald trump for that same thing. that david duke controversy. the rubio campaign for a very long time they had refrained from these types of attacks. they wanted to stay above the fray, they wanted to take on hillary clinton, bernie sanders, and the democrats. but now it's apparently become clear that they feel they have to go directly at donald trump and that time is running out. that they have to make a difference here as they head into super tuesday and then beyond. march 15, the florida primary. craig? >> gabe gutierrez there in atlanta, the intercontinental
ballroom there in buckhead, thanks to you. and thanks to jacob rascon in virginia with donald trump. we would like to hear from you. do you think candidates war of words has hurt the gop? there's the question. you can vote now at pulse.msnbc.com. we will share your thoughts later this hour. so much ahead in hour as candidates on both sides are campaigning across the country hitting key super tuesday battleground states. right now again donald trump you can see top left hand in virginia. hillary clinton holding 245 g it out the vote event in boston. marco rubio lower left side that rally in atlanta and we expect to see bernie sanders soon in minneapolis there. bernie sanders, that event the lower right-hand side of your screen. we are monitoring those events and so much more ahead from puckett's, nashville, tennessee,
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holding a get out the vote rally in boston right now. let's listen in just a bit. >> we're going to take it all on because we are not a single-issue country. we are a country that is diverse and strong in our diversity. but i can't do any of this without your help. i can't do any of this. i'll work with anybody. i'll work with our great democrats from this state but i'll work with republicans to find that common ground but i
will also stand by ground because it's important to stand up for our values and our principles. but we've got to get back to solving problems again, my friends. we have to. that's who we are. those folks who are their way or the highway, they don't represent what our founders understood would create the longest-lasting democracy in the history of the world. they didn't doubt that they would there would be differences among us. that's kind of the american dna. but what they did was to set up a system where we have to work together and where those political voices who basically try to say you have to agree with me or else are being louder and louder. we need to say no. no. in a democracy we work together. we don't always get our own way. if i were grading some of those
republicans, remember the little box that used to be on your kids' report cards? "plays well with others." [ laughter ] i'd have to put a big no. democracy requires that we play well with others, that's what it's all about! [ cheers and applause ] so i need your help tomorrow. i need you not only to vote for me but to get as many other people here to vote for me and to have a great, great outcome in massachusetts! >> and there you have hillary clinton making the final pitch to voters there in boston. she was in nashville roughly this time where she talked about extending medicaid to residents here in the volunteer state. bernie sanders hoping to gain
ground tomorrow on super tuesday while her democratic rival hillary clinton, you just saw looking to expand her lead nationally about clinton campaigning in massachusetts. also campaigning in virginia as well. while her husband former president bill clinton stumping for her in texas. meanwhi meanwhile, bernie sanders valleying voters in minnesota, he'll also be in massachusetts and we have our team of reporters and anchors fanned out following the candidates on the campaign trail, msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt is in minneapolis, msnbc political reporter alex seitz-wald is in boston at that hillary event and msnbc anchor thomas roberts is in virginia. kasie, let me start with you there in minneapolis where bernie sanders again holding a rally. we understand he'll be taking the stage in minutes. the what's the scene like there? >> hey, craig. well, we're waiting for senator bernie sanders to come out here in minnesota of course. this is his third trip back here
in about four day which is should tell you they are focused very heavily on trying to win here in this caucus state where they believe they are ahead it's one of a handful of states they're focused on for super tuesday, one being massachusetts where hillary clinton is today, vermont, colorado, oklahoma. what do they have in common? they're states with a lower share of minority voters. we, of course, saw that route in south carolina with african-americans voting overwhelmingly for clinton. this is a very challenging road ahead for bernie sanders. super tuesday includes a number of states across the south where the minority vote is going to be incredibly important and those are where the biggest delegate prices are. so the question is whether or not he can come to the other side of super tuesday. they say they are going to be in all the way to the convention.
if you look at where they're advertising on tv, it's the states where they think they might win. maybe a sign they're saving up from the cash. but as each loss goes forward they risk losing momentum and coming under more pressure to tilt towards hillary clinton to let her run against donald trump and one last quick note, craig, backstage here at this rally is jesse ventura, that former independent governor here telling the local paper he's trying to decide between sanders and trump. so a little river in for you, craig. >> jesse "the body" ventura kasie hunt there in minneapolis. kasie speaking as we saw a flan shirt wearing keith ellison in the background introducing the senator. kasie hunt, a big thanks to you. we may come back to here hear the senator in just a bit.
let's bring in alex seitz-wald. alex in boston where hillary clinton just ended that rally. we heard some of what she had to say. what else did she have to say, alex? >> craig, what we're seeing since that big south carolina win for her is she's talking less about bernie sanders and more about donald trump and the rest of the republicans. you saw in the that little bite that you played. she also riffed on his message of making america great again. she says america is already great and needs to be made whole again, not mentioning bernie sanders' name at all. we've been seeing that in the last couple days. it speaks to the confidence the clinton campaign now has not only in those southern states where after winning huge with african-americans in south carolina and nevada they feel they have a chance to clean sweep the south. but if fact she's even here in massachusetts where, as kasie said, this is one of the five states that bernie sanders is advertising on, one of the five states he's targeting, she's going to minnesota tomorrow, another state bernie sanders is hoping to do well in. she is on offense.
she is going to his states, his territory hoping not to just win but win big and sanders, meanwhile, the s staying closer to his home territory, to his states, not sven which you aring as much into the states where hillary clinton is looking stronge stronger. >> one of the most sought after endorsements still out there, of course, elizabeth warren, the flag bearer for the most liberal wing of the democratic party. any sense whether elizabeth warren at this point is going to back either sanders or clinton? >> craig, obviously a huge prize for either of them. do not expect any time soon an endorsement from elizabeth warren. this is about her constituency which is divided between bernie sanders and hillary clinton, not a whole lot to gain for her to come down on one side and alienate her own supporters.
also with the race looking close in massachusetts, you don't want to pick the wrong candidate and end up looking like you backed the wrong horse, craig. >> alex seitz-wald there for us in boston. bernie sanders has taken the stage right now in minneapolis is. let's listen in. when they go around the country and they say "well, climate change is a hoax, it's not real." and it's very dangerous thing for a nation when you reject science. i will not reject science. [ cheers and applause ] and what the scientific community is telling us is that as serious as dangerous as the situation is today it will only get worse in the coming years if we do not get our act together and transform our energy system away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and sustainable
energy. [ cheers and applause ] . as all of you know right here in minnesota, the oil company has proposed a series of pipelines to carry oil across the state. [ boos ] the first, as you know, is called sand piper and it would carry 640,000 barrels per day of fracked oil. [ boos ] the second project is a pipeline just like the keystone pipeline. and let me tell you, i was one of the leaders in opposition to the keystone pipeline. chauz [ cheers and applause ] and this pipeline running through minnesota is called the alberta clipper. and that would bring 800,000 barrels per day of some of the
dirtiest oil being excavated in the world. [ boos [ boos ] now president obama said when his administration was reviewing the keystone pipeline that he wouldn't approve it if it made climate and our planet more dangerous. he wouldn't approve that if he could make the point that the emission emissions couldn't make the change. those are the standards that we need to apply to alberta clipper and the sand piper and what i would do as president of the united states of america. [ cheers and applause ] the bottom line for me -- i've got four kids and seven grandchildren and our moral
responsibility is to make sure that we leave this planet in a way that is healthy and habitable to future generations. the bottom line for me is that fossil fuel companies cannot wreck our planet for their short term profits. [ cheers and applause ] during the last ten months our campaign with your help and the help of americans of americans has come a very, very long way. when we began, as you may recall, we were about 3% in the polls, 60, 70 points behind secretary clinton. we had no money. we had no political organization we were up against a candidate supported by virtually the entire political establishment. a candidate who was considered
to be the inevitable nominee of the democratic party. [ cheers and applause ] well, in ten month a few things have changed. [ cheers and applause ] and tomorrow here in minnesota you can make that change even more significant. [ cheers and applause ] >> what we have found out throughout this campaign is something pretty simple is that when voter turnouts are large, when working people and young people and people who in many cases have given up on the political process, when they come out to vote, we do very
well. is when they do not come out to vote and that was the case in nevada we do not do as well as we could. so my request is that let us make history tomorrow. minnesota can play a huge -- dare i use that word -- so i have to change my vocabulary around now. every time i use that word it brings forth all kinds of responses. [ laughter ] but the truth is tomorrow is important and key to super tuesday as what happens here in minnesota. we can win no question, here in minnesota if we have a turnout. >> bernie sanders using donald trump's favorite adjective there
in minneapolis as he tries to rally voters there. 67, 68 delegates are up for grabs in that state tomorrow. up next we'll turn our eye back toward tennessee. specifically nashville, a look at what's shaping up to be the biggest day for democrats so far of the cycle. we'll look at that i also caught up with local voters a short time in nashville. listen to what they had to say. you are going to vote tomorrow. >> yes, sir. >> but you have not decided for whom you are going to vote. >> no, very undecided. >> how can you still be undecided. all the ads, the phone calls? still undecided? >> still undecided. >> what are you waiting on debbie. >> that magical moment to come and tell me exactly what i need to vote for. [ laughter ] >> have you narrowed it down? >>. >> probably. >> okay, between who and who?
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we're reporting from nashville, tennessee. you can smell the barbecue in this place, puckett's in downtown nashville. polls up here 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. tomorrow. 58 republican delegate, 76 democratic delegates up for grabs in the volunteer state. i want to bring in carol swain, political science professor at vanderbilt university. david boucher, investigative and political reporter for "the tennesseen." we should note that you were a bush appointee during the last administration. >> yes. >> let me start with you, early voting as i understand it right now up roughly 17% over 2008.
>> it tells you people are at stake and they are realizing they need to get their supporters out early and voters are responding so i think that it just indicates the stakes in this election. >> you've spent a lot of time on the ground talking to voters, spent time with the candidates as well. what sense are you getting from voters first of all, additionally, these endorsements, we've seen a number of endorsements in tennessee. any sense they will matter? >> i think it's fair to say there are different policy positions that separate candidates but all of the republican supporters seem to be channeling that same anger toward president obama. not a popular figure in tennessee so that sense of anger has been palpable at events for senator cruz and rubio. looking at the endorsement specifically, senate or lamar alexander has come out in favor of senator rubio.
senator alexander was at an event with senator rubio. but early voting is up, more than 250,000 reebs have voted before these endorsements so it's unclear whether or not those will sway a ton of voters in a state where mr. trump is polling very well. >> i think the voting is more than anger at president obama. people are fearful about the direction of the country, very concerned about judeo-christian values and that i believe's motivating the turnout. >> if folks in tennessee are so concerned about judeo-christian values, and i heard that in south carolina as well, why is a guy like trump polling at 40% versus someone like ted cruz who continues to struggle mightily with so-called evangelical christians? >> i think the voters have been let down so much by christians that by politicians who professor to be christians if you look at all about leaders pretty much that are republican they professor christianity but they've disappointed voters so i
think they're willing to give donald trump a chance because he's speaking things that resonate with the rank-and-file and this klan -- >> this kkk -- >> david duke endorsement or whatever you want to call it, i think that's going to be a non-issue because people have said with political correctness and no candidate can totally control who supports that candidate. >> well, but conditioned date cans come out immediately and call -- >> that would hurt donald trump. >> really? >> i think it would hurt donald trump because he's not into political correctness and to come out and demand -- >> political correctness is one thing. an endorsement from the former grand dragon of the kkk. >> if you're trying to win, you're trying to get votes from wherever they come. >> the house of representatives in tennessee overwhelmingly voted in support of a measure that would make a harder to remove a bust of nathan bedford forrest, one of the earliest leader of the k frkk from the
statehouse. i don't think that it will make that much of a difference, especially with the early voters who cast votes for mr. trump. >> when you look at how the republican party has changed, what kind of voters do you suspect we'll see tomorrow, the folks who show up who haven't voted already? >> i think as dr. swain noted there are many people engaging in the political process that might have not voted before. there seems to be a clear divide about where the republican party sees their candidates going so i think regardless of what type of voters comes out we'll see more. it will rain a lot inton tp tomorrow so we'll see. >> i would not be surprised if donald trump didn't get some black support. i know a few people that are african-american that are saying they're going to vote for donald trump. they care about jobs. >> you know we're out of time and you drop something like that when i don't have time to follow up. carol swain of vanderbilt university. david boucher from the tennesseean, thank you for being with me. we are down to the final stretch of our super tuesday seven day
seven state road trip. chris janse iing literally on t road heading to the seventh and final state, virginia. where are you right now? >> i'm in georgia. population 2525 -- did we lose you for a second? >> you know what? i think we're losing chris jansing but i have to be honest with you, i'm familiar with this stretch of highway, outside 58 outside spartanburg or headed towards spartanburg: >> how do you know that? every time we go under an overpass we lose you for a second so that's what's going on. >> there are lots of overpasses along this particular stretch of i-85. we'll try to get our friend
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but back here in tennessee, it looks to be clinton country. she is polling very well, expects to be the odds-on favorite tomorrow. here with me now in nashville, mary mancini, the chair of the tennessee democratic party. so good to see you. thanks for stopping by. >> thanks for having me, craig. appreciate it. >> what do you order when you come? >> the meat and three, cof course. the vegetable of the day is the hash brown casserole. >> i can't wait to try it. barack obama did very well in urban areas like nashville, like memphis, like chattanooga as well. how is it a democratic voter tomorrow is going to be different than a democratic voter in tennessee back in 2008? >> i don't think it will be very different at all. i think they'll be just as excited. back in 2008, clearly barack obama captured the imagination of democrats, and i think the same is happening right now with hillary clinton and with bernie sanders.
>> a lot has been made of the enthusiasm gap that hillary clinton allegedly suffers from, depending on which poll you're looking at. what have you seen here in tennessee with regards to that? is there a lack of enthusiasm for hillary versus what we saw with president obama, then senator obama in 2008? >> i'm not seeing that, actually. the part of my job that i love the best is i get to travel around the state of tennessee, and i'm not seeing any kind of a gap. there are democrats that are solidly and enthusiastically behind secretary clinton, and the same goes for senator sanders. >> turnout is expected to be high for democrats as well tomorrow. i understand there has also been near record-setting early voting for democrats. i think you will concede that come november this is not a state that's going to be at play. why do you think there's such high turnout for the democrats? >> i actually reject your premise. >> really. you think tennessee will be in play in november. >> absolutely.
>> what polling? perhaps you've seen something i haven't seen. >> first of all, it's a long time between now and november, so we have to look at that. but we vauls also have to look t tennessee has done in the past. we're a state that elects reasonable people on both sides of the al. this state went for bill clinton twice. >> but there hasn't been a democrat since 2000 on a national level who has been elected? >> certainly not, but we also have to look at where the country is now. we look at the gains that president obama has made, and there are people in the state, democrats and republican, who have done well and want to see those gains continue. >> bernie sanders tomorrow in tennessee. how well do you think he does? >> i think he'll do okay. clearly we're probably looking at the same polling data and seeing that secretary clinton is way ahead. >> as you watch this campaign play out, what has struck you most?
>> wow. so i think, again, it's the enthusiasm that democrats in tennessee have for both candidates. what has really struck me most is the republican establishment in this state has put their support behind a man who is endorsed by the kkk, right? and the ones who haven't done that have put their support behind marco rubio who is a failed senator. >> but going back to this kkk endorsement, david duke, that we've been talking about for a fu few days. we heard the newspaper saying had trump gone out and denounced david duke immediately, that may not have played well with primary voters here in the state. what do you say to that? >> that's absolutely wrong. that's absolutely wrong. this is a reasonable state. this is a state that's moving forward that has traditionally been one of the more progressive states in the south. i think that's absolutely wrong. the other thing, too, is it the right thing to do in this state
for any candidate to actually not disavow the kkk? and the answer to that is absolutely no. >> mary mancini, chair of the tennessee democratic party international. thanks for stopping by. >> thanks for having me. >> we're going to go have a meet and greet together as soon as we wrap things up here. that's going to do it for us. we're wrapping up this hour at msnbc live. from nashville, we'll be back here tomorrow. thomas roberts next from northern virginia. our cosmetics line was a hit.
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virginia. it has served as a german ship. in its heyday, it fired shells more than a ton apiece. and as we speak about war, we have the war taking place for the democratic and gop nominees. now, the fire we're following today on the campaign trail is less physically destructive but pretty explosive in its own right. in these final hours before a race-defining super tuesday, marco rubio and ted cruz are seizing on a new controversy surrounding frontrunner donald trump. trump getting tripped up over disavowing the endorsement of former kkk grand wizard david duke. this morning he tried to get him to clarify, and his opponents are not letting it go. >> so let me tell you, i'm sitting in a house in florida with a very bad earpiece that they gave me, and you could hardly hear what he was saying, but what i heard was various groups, and i don't mind disavowing anybody. i disavow david duke and i disavowed him the day before in a major news conference.
>> i don't care how bad the earpiece is, ku klux klan comes in pretty clearly and he refused to criticize it. >> as you can see, the opponents of trump seizing on this as a chance to weaken the gop frontrunner. but if they were hoping this controversy would sink trump's candidacy, a new gop poll might spell it all out. trump standing at 49% nationally. and when tomorrow ends, this race could be over with a defined gop nominee. we have, over the past 72 hours being a combative one, to say the least, and we have teams across the country. from here to virginia to massachusetts, south of georgia, alabama and texas and back north to minnesota. i want to start with jason persc -- rascon in radford, virginia. >> some admitted that trump's failure to come down hard
against the former kkk leader was disappointing, partly because they know donald trump is capable, well capable, of going after somebody hard, discrediting them, disavowing them if he chooses, while others said, look, he had already disavowed this person, david duke. why ask him again? so they blame the media for creating this controversy. we spoke to many people with many viewpoints, but all of them said, with a couple of exceptions, that they were then -- they were still willing to vote for donald trump. he was still their guy. take a listen. >> david duke and people like that, they come out from under rocks all the time around this time. it has nothing to do with donald trump. we're all americans. i think we need to stop with the racist stuff. >> i voted for reagan, bush sr. both times, and coming out that far election, i felt betrayed by the party or the establishment as you hear the term now. i feel that this candidate,
donald trump -- and i wasn't there in the beginning, but i think this candidate is doing more to unify people. >> reporter: an interesting note on the first gentleman you heard from there, frank, an african-american from brooklyn. he says he remembers donald trump funding his basketball team when he was a teenager or younger, and he's now moved to virginia. he says that the controversy around the kkk leader, he believes, is made up. he says he has met donald trump, he doesn't believe he's a racist, and that he, in fact, had voted for obama and is now switching believing, he says, that trump is the new candidate for change. we've heard that several times. people who said they voted democrat or independent who are willing now to switch. one more note, there were several protests as is usually the case. but one that stood out, there was a photographer for time magazine who stepped out of the pen. i spoke to him after this happened. then he was, by a secret service agent, pushed back in, and then there's some video of this, a
fight back and forth where the photographer looks like he's thrown to the ground and then he's kicking back. that's an example of some of the tension between not only those in the stands who are protesting but some in the media who are trying to get different access. of course we'll talk to all parties involved to see more about what really happened there. but the photographer himself tells me that he was just trying to get a photograph, and he was roughed up by the secret service, though he was not arrested, just detained for questioning. thomas? >> jacob rascon reporting in radford, virginia. we have one who speaks for the trump campaign who said there was an incident between a photographer and a secret service agent. we're not aware of the details of the incident and all future questions should be directed to local law enforcement.
we'll see if we can get answers from local law enforcement there about what happened, but as we look around the campaign trail, it was another busy day for marco rubio with two events this morning. he has three more hitting tennessee, arkansas and oklahoma. gabe gutierrez joins me from oklahoma. i know nikki haley was also a part of this, but did they go after donald trump for the issue on david duke's endorsement? >> reporter: yes, thomas, good afternoon. going after donald trump for that interview yesterday, refusing to disavow david duke immediately, and then he later tweeted out that he did disavow him and had done so previously. marco rubio is continuing to hit him hard, not buying that excuse or the faulty earpiece, and saying the republicans cannot nominate someone who does not disavow white supremacists. he said it in his rally just now. he said it in another rally earlier this morning in
tennessee. but as we mentioned, at this rally governor nikki haley was here. she, of course, the governor who endorsed marco rubio. it was a situation where he's losing his voice, so she came in and also started taking on trump. she joked that she had told her kids when a bully hits you, you hit back, and the crowd absolutely loved it. marco rubio also spoke more about why he's continuing to attack trump and what this means for the republicans if he is a nominee come this november. take a listen to what he had to say. >> and if we lose this election, and we will if donald trump is the nominee, then hillary clinton will be the next president of the united states. i say this to you without any hesitation and without any glee, a vote for donald trump tomorrow is a vote for hillary clinton in november. >> reporter: and we also saw some frustration from marco rubio, really lashing out at the media for covering donald trump
as much as the media has up until this point. there is some clear frustration there, and he says that it's only now that he's attacking trump, that people are starting to carry his speeches live. but over the last few days, he has really gone after him personally. as you reported, thomas, talking about his sweat and mustache at one point, his hair force i and even the spray tan. really going the distance the past few days. today rubio stressing that again, that donald trump is a con artist, and hoping that message translates to votes come tomorrow. i have been speaking with voters. i spoke with them at this rally in atlanta, and they said, look, they're disappointed that the campaign has taken a negative tone, but at the same time if you're a rubio supporter, and these people were, rubio has to do whatever it takes to stop donald trump. now, the question will be, will that mean enough votes for him tomorrow? it's going to be a steep climb for him. he is trailing donald trump in the super tuesday states. but again, his campaign
guaranteeing victory in a few weeks on march 15 in his home state of florida. thomas? >> gabe gutierrez reporting for us in atlanta. gabe, thank you so much. we want to turn now to nbc's hallie jackson. halley has been covering the cruz campaign for us. hallie, we know donald trump could have a really big super tuesday, but how is ted cruz defining what his super tuesday is going to look like and how he's going to march past that into march 15? >> reporter: he's doing nothing to lower the expectations game, thomas. in fact, just a couple minutes ago, he talked about what he needs to do and how he thinks this race will end up. essentially for his campaign, texas is really important. i want to come back to that, but i want you to hear what the senator had to say. >> at the end of tomorrow, donald trump is, in all likelihood, going to have a big chunk of delegates. and we are, i believe, going to have a big chunk of delegates. and i think everyone else will be way, way, way behind. at that point it will become abundantly clear this is a
two-man race. >> reporter: you heard him there, way, way, way behind. it remains to be seen whether that will actually happen or whether that is somewhat wishful thinking on the part of ted cruz. that said, his campaign has a strategy how they want to play, texas being the key to that. he has said it's the crown jewel of super tuesday for him. you can see the room filling up behind me in san antonio. i was talking to folks coming out to support ted cruz. some of them were backers of his even before when he was solicitor general here. he told a campaign aide this is where he feels really comfortable. people know him here, they trust him here. but the fact cruz has three more events here, a stop here and another one tomorrow for his watch party. they've got 27,000 volunteers in the state. 7,000 of them will be at polling places tomorrow. volunteer chairs, essentially, in every congressional district, so texas is an all-win state, a
must for cruz. when you look at where he and his superpac are spending money also, thomas, that's an indication of where they feel they need to make an impact, places like georgia, tennessee. >> he's spending time in texas, spending a lot of money in those sec primary states, also texas, but also spending money on snapchat? what's that about? >> he's got this gop filter he's rolling out. at the site of those trump rallies, you pull it out and it shows an orange emoji face with donald trump hair saying takxes what's he hiding? this is a way to bring attention to this. if people are at these rallies and they go to snapchat and pull it up, it reminds them of this idea of trump not releasing his tax returns. cruz released his over the weekend, two-page summaries for the last five, so nine years of
tax returns, all of that putting pressure on trump. that's just one of the attack lines cruz has been hitting trump on. you're hearing him talk about everything from health care to trump's positions on the middle east consistently again and again. what he hasn't done, though, is take that same kind of tone we've heard from marco rubio. nothing from ted cruz about donald trump's tan or donald trump's hair. cruz said he didn't want to level those kinds of attacks, but if marco rubio is successful on super tuesday, more successful than people thought, perhaps that will trigger a recalibration within the field. thomas? >> a lot of different strategies at play right now. hallie jackson reporting in san antonio, texas. hallie, thanks so much. our pulse question is up for you. do you think the candidates' war of words has hurt the gop? check it out on pulse.msnbc.com. we'll have more results this hour. we want to bring in republican attorney general of
virginia and ted cruz surrogate ken cuccinelli. we have virginia on paper being one of the states where ted cruz should perform pretty well as is a delegate-rich state, not as rich azts texas. when you think about the polls, the delegate vote goes to donald trump. why do you think that is, when it should be going to ted cruz? >> what ted is winning is the young vote, the millennial vote as well as the conservative vote. that's really the focus of our campaign. you categorize evangelicals. they're people who worship one way, but they believe in a strong economy, strong military and so forth. so it's an oversimplification to look at them that way, and ted has been dealing with all the issues people care about. your reporter there, hallie, just noted while trump and rubio are having this you wet your pants and you sweat too much kind of exchange, ted cruz is over there saying donald trump has a liberal health care plan,
he hasn't supported amnesty until this campaign while ted cruz is fighting against amnesty in the senate. that history, that conservative history, matches ted's conservative vision. he is the only candidate of the three remaining at the top tier that can say that. and so we're going after conservative voters in all these states, whether it's virginia or texas and everywhere in between, plus vermont and massachusetts. and that message is really resonating. there are a lot of people who are fed up with the food fight between rubio and trump, and we're trying to stay very focused on the issues that affect people's lives, and every one of them, ted, has a solid track record that he can point to. >> so when we look at the delegate count, it's 49 gop delegates at stake here. it's not a winner take all state of virginia. when we think about how the state is made up with active military, veterans, wealthier beach communities, even the more urban communities, do you feel
confident that ted cruz can pick up delegates here? >> absolutely. absolutely. we will be competitive in virginia, we will pick up delegates here, and it's going to be part of our total. i believe the outcome is going to be just what you heard senator cruz talking about, is we're going to pull away in the delegate front for marco rubio. we're going to make it very clear that the alternative to donald trump is ted cruz, and of course, right now we're the only campaign that has won a state other than donald trump, and you can't win without winning states. texas is tomorrow. the people who know senator cruz the best are going to give him texas tomorrow. and the people who know senator rubio the best are going to deny him florida in two weeks. he's getting killed -- killed -- in every poll. and the simple reason is they both ran to go to washington, oppose the establishment and limit government. well, marco rubio went and joined the establishment most famously with the gang of eight
bill. ted cruz fought them. frankly what ty the mitch mccons and others don't appreciate him. the people of texas appreciate that, and the people of florida as it relates to marco rubio, judge it very differently. >> let me play for you, though, something ted cruz had to say. i know you mentioned the food fight between rubio and trump, but this is how ted cruz talked about donald trump. >> there have been multiple media reports about donald's business dealings with the mob, with the mafia. maybe his taxes show those business dealings are a lot more extensive than has been reported. >> as a former attorney general of florida and a ted cruz surrogate, is this a wise strategy for him to make an assertion like that about trump's taxes? >> of course, he asked a question there, and the point was to ask the question, to ask a question. the reason this issue is important goes beyond whatever
donald may report in his taxes. it goes to the point that republicans have been prosecuting the case against hillary clinton politically, of course, that she has been hiding things. democrats don't trust her. she's hiding e-mails, she won't release her paid-for speeches -- >> this is more specifically about donald trump. >> i understand that, but -- >> not about the mob, but a former attorney general in virginia. >> that is a question he posed. what is donald hiding? why won't he release them? surely there must be a reason. he's drawing on old news reports, but it's totally speculative and he phrases it that way. he's not making an accusation. but if that's out there, what do you think hillary clinton will do with that? donald trump won't be able to prosecute a case for distrust and a lack of openness against hillary clinton while he has this tax issue outstanding. >> ken cuccinelli who is a former republican attorney general for virginia and
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[ cheers and applause ] >> we have bernie sanders here in norfolk, virginia last week rallying a crowd of thousands of supporters. hillary clinton will be holding a rally later here tonight. this is after saturday's crushing loss for bernie sanders in south carolina. hillary clinton goes into super tuesday way ahead of her rival. i want to bring into the conversation now the mayor of norfolk, virginia, harold fong, who is supporting hillary clinton. nice to see you. >> nice to have you back. >> you remind me of when i was here honoring the park. >> we almost froze during an interview. >> many moons ago. as we look at the contest now, we saw quite a crowd for bernie sanders last week. he has an electricity about his campaign. but hillary clinton is way ahead in the polls, as we look at this recent monmouth university poll, 27 points. can she carry virginia based on
hampton rhodes? >> i'm not sure based on hampton rhodes but she'll carry hampton rhodes. we're very pleased that her last stop in the campaign will be here in norfolk. she'll be greeted by the govern governor, very well received in hampton rhodes. president obama did very well here, and mccaulccullife, also scott of newport news has come out. you are behind secretary clinton along with 11 other maryors in virginia currently. how important is this because of the diversity of the state? >> virginia is a reflective --
our demographics are pretty close to what the rest of the country looks like. we'll gain some real insight here in virginia after the voting as to how she will do nationwide, and i think she'll do very well. >> when we think about how senator bernie sanders is doing, though, he's definitely made inroads here. are you surprised by what a strong contender he is against an establishment candidate like hillary clinton? >> i think that senator sanders has surprised a lot of folks, but he's well regarded, he's liked, he's obviously got a popular message, but when it comes time to being the president and commander in chief, i think most people are going to settle on the candidate who is the most qualified and most experienced, and that is hillary clinton. >> last but not least, tomorrow is the deadline to file for mayor to run. you're not doing it again? >> no, 22 years is enough. >> you're done. we appreciate the beautiful weather and the hospitality of norfolk, virginia. the freedom.
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fact that they didn't have a win in south carolina, or rather, he omitted south carolina from his list of states where they played well and where they might be able to go forward. of course accident for super tuesday, they're looking at states with lower shares of minority voters, places like minnesota where we are now, oklahoma, vermont, massachusetts. i asked him over the weekend whether or not super tuesday was going to be his last shot to take on hillary clinton. here's what he said. >> i think as most americans know, this is a long process state-by-state by state. right now we're looking at super st tuesday. we have 11 states up and then there are more states. i think we'll win a number of them. we're feeling very good. >> reporter: so one big difference for the sanders campaign going forward will be
the millions of dollars they have. usually when a challenger starts losing, they typically start ru running out of money. that isn't going to be the case for sanders, i don't think. we'll see what happens if he starts to not do well. >> hillary clinton is going to be holding campaign events today in virginia and massachusetts as well. a new suffolk university poll has hillary clinton leading bernie sanders in massachusetts by eight points. it also shows 8% of voters remain undecided right now. i want to bring in msnbc reporter alex seitz-wald covering clinton in boston today. what do you hear about hillary clinton today and the race, the contest for massachusetts? >> reporter: right, thomas. well, they're expecting a very close race tomorrow despite that suffolk poll. that poll, they note, showed hillary clinton up nine points in new hampshire.
she was down nine points in new hampshire and ended up losing by 22. it has a lower share of minority voters, as kasie hunt noted. that favors bernie sanders. and they're hoping their organization, which has been really successful in nevada and iowa, will carry them over the top this weekend. they had a lot of activity this weekend door knocking. think th they think they did a little better than bernie sanders but it's going to come down to the wire. massachusetts is sort of icing on the cake for them. there are other states in the south, six states they're really targeting. if they can do well here, they kind of look at it as bernie sanders' territory and that's just even better. >> we know they were quick to dismiss the win for bernie sanders in new hampshire, but is there a plan if hillary clinton wipes up the map come tuesday. >> the map heavily favors
hillary clinton, not only because you have states with minority populations, but they just have more delegates. texas, georgia and virginia are all strong hillary clinton states and she's winning by huge margins there. that means she can wrap up a large number of delegates. sanders' campaign is looking ahead. they know they'll suffer some losses tomorrow, but they're looking ahead to states like ohio and michigan where they think they can do better. they're saying if they can withstand the momentum, if their supporters keep chipping in those $27, they are going to stay in this for the long haul. >> alex seitz-wald reporting for us in massachusetts. alex, thanks so much. as we report from virginia today, it is 49 delegates up for grabs here in old dominion. we're checking up on other races in other key states, and that includes the biggest delegate prize on the map, texas.
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i think america as a whole, as a country, it just makes us look really bad. >> i'm not a big trump fan. that even kind of makes it even worse, you know, because, like, why would you -- who doesn't know who the kkk is? >> he wants attention. he's one of those people that good attention and bad attention is still good. >> hi, everybody, and welcome back. i'm thomas roberts. we are broadcasting live today from beautiful downtown norfolk, virginia along the elizabeth river where it is a wonderful day to go sailing. if you can tell by the winds around us, it is beautiful, crisp and sunny, about 65 degrees. and giving you a look here of the battleship wisconsin. it's now an active museum behind us. it's been here roughly about 10 years and we are less than 24
hours out of the polling opening for super tuesday, the biggest day of 2016 and the election calendar so far where voters go to the polls in 12 states, and this is going to be where a total of 1600 delegates are up for grabs. as of today, the delegate allocation looks like this. on the democratic side, hillary clinton leads bernie sanders with 519 delegates to his 86. on the right, donald trump leading with 82 delegates, almost five times that of his close competitor, ted cruz. our reporters are spread out across this super tuesday campaign trail today from georgia to alabama to texas, and we want to begin with nbc's chris jansing where she's on the road to virginia where she'll be broadcasting her final day of her seven-state, seven-day super tuesday road trip. chris, you've almost done it. you're rounding the base heading for home. except when chris goes under an
overpass, we lose chris. we'll try to get back to our chris jansing. we saw her there. she's in the bluemobile. again, it's the 7-day, 7-state campaign trail super tour, and we'll speak to chris as she's headed toward richmond. we want to turn to the state of alabama. no, we've got chris back. chris jansing, you are one elusive woman. >> you never know when we're going to hit an overpass so i'll make this quick. here's what's cool about georgia. georgia is the place that got all these southern states together and said let's all move our primaries to march 1st. -- in new hampshire where there are candidates. people actually express surprise in some of these sec southern states that they are getting this kind of attention and getting these vifrtsits. for them it may be about seeing
the candidates up close. we're heading to an overpass. stay with me. >> okay, so we did our very best there to have chris jansing report from the road. we're going to return to chris when we get that shot back, but it's difficult when we hit those overpasses. we want to go to alabama. that's one state where voters will head to the polls tomorrow. a big issue for alabama. the controversy of how the millions of dollars of bp settlement money will be allocated and spent. ron is in alabama. ron, what do you hear from the voters there? >> reporter: hey, thomas, it's not just here in alabama but all the gulf states affected by that oil spill. it's almost the six-year anniversary of that. there is some frustration, i guess is the best word, about how some of the states are spending the money. in biloxi next door, in
mississippi, they're rehabbing a baseball stadium. the state has decided to rehab a government on the shore here. the owners who work these waters, that's their livelihood. some of them have not fully recovered from that bp oil spill six years ago. listen to one owner and how he was affected. he's just down the waterway here. take a listen. >> really took a toll on us. it just about completely put us out of business. at the time i had four operating businesses. when it occurred, i didn't think it would ever affect us, you know, so far away. but it wasn't long before it all stopped. and our revenue was like somebody turned the faucet off, it just quit coming in. >> reporter: revenues quit coming in, a million dollars' revenue before the bp oil spill. he said he's down to about 100,000. he's actually trying to sell off what's left of his business. there is a seafood business right here. i spoke to one of the executives
about the oil spill controversy and how the money is being spent and who he is supporting tomorrow when they go to the polls. he said he is going to poll for ted cruz. i asked him why and he said ted cruz is the most consistent and the most principaled of all the candidates. he's still undecided about marco rubio, donald trump and ted cruz. thunderstorms potentially in the area. a beautiful day today. back to you. >> it does look great today. we'll see what happens tomorrow. people in texas have already shattered voting records and super tuesday voting hasn't even begun yet. 36,000 have already cast their votes beating the record in 2008 by their absentee ballots. we're in ft. worth, texas where he spoke with some of the people who will be manning the polling
stations tomorrow. jake, what are they saying about this absentee ballots coming in but the folks they expect to see tomorrow. >> reporter: they expect to see a heck of a lot of people, tom. as if voting was not enough to do a civic duty, these people at this location, the tarrant county headquarters, are doing double civic duty. they are all coming to the training center training to be election judges, poll sitters. this is the tarrant county, texas election office, and everybody that's in this room are training to become a poller or election judge on super tuesday. what's it like? >> exciting. >> reporter: is it? >> yes, very informative. >> reporter: even if it's a low turnout? >> that's not what it's about. it's seeing that people are going to come out and be a part of it. that's the main thing. >> reporter: you've done this before, so why are you coming back for a refresher? >> oh, have something to do. think about something different
rather than what's going on around here in the world. >> reporter: a nice break, huh? >> that's right, a break in the mon monotony. >> reporter: thank you for your service. >> 30 years. >> reporter: 30 years at the elections? >> no, no. >> reporter: 30 years in the military. >> yes. >> reporter: do you feel like it will be a big turnout? >> yes, i do. may the best man win. >> best man or woman? or best man. >> i'm not going to commit. may the best man win. >> reporter: any turnout you'd like to see on wednesday? >> i'm not making any predictions, but i would like to see hillary win big in this area. >> do you have any predictions? >> no, but she and i are on the same page. >> reporter: do you have any
predictions who will win this election? >> i think ted cruz will win. >> i think hillary clinton will do wonderfully. >> reporter: that's on the democratic side. what about the republican side? what's it look like? >> reporter: . >> i don't have anything to do with that. that's up to them. >> reporter: what's the biggest responsibility to be an election judge? >> you're responsible for everything. >> reporter: democracy? >> democracy, that's right. >> reporter: all these things i'm standing between right now are early voting machines. all of these have been used, ballots have been cast. somewhere between 140,000 and 150,000 have participated in this county. a million people have participated in texas. we're looking ahead to super tuesday. the election supervisor in this area told me he thinks an additional 250,000 people might show up tomorrow. >> that's a lot in texas.
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desert storm, decommissioned once again and has been if service as a museum for the last ten years. the big question is, who is going to earn the support of norfolk voters on super tuesday? i want to bring in my panel. u.s. navy veteran and broadcaster in norfolk, katie fury, and quinton kidd. katie, i want to start with you. the candidates who are seeking the military vote are making the most inroads with what type of rhetoric? is the strong rhetoric we're hearing on the right working, or is it more what we're hearing from hillary clinton or bernie sanders? >> the first thing i don't want to do is make the mistake that every candidate has the equal opportunity to make, assuming there is a collective conscience in the military. in preparation for today, i heard support for a few different candidates. i will say mostly trump, mostly republican, but also some support out there for hillary
clinton as well as bernie sanders, and very passionate response from one service member i spoke to for marco rubio, and he said not only does he support him, but he's donating to his campaign. >> that's a really big distinction when they're going to give money to the campaign. >> right, because they're not paid enough, so if they're passionate enough to make a contribution, they're really feeling it, but it's something they're discouraging from discussing publicly in uniform, so i promised anonymity and i appreciate their voices. >> let's talk about the numbers, because in '08, barack obama carried it over hillary clinton. she is pulling 27 points ahead of bernie sanders. do you think virginia will speak to the larger picture of what the general election will look for for candidate clinton? >> yeah, my sense is clinton will do well against a part of that obama coalition. she's going to struggle with part of it. she'll struggle with younger
minority voters who seem to be more interested in bernie sanders. when bernie sanders held a rally here last week, he held a particular rally to attract younger minority voters. hillary clinton, however, her campaign is working hard to mobilize that coalition. in the end she's going to struggle with the younger voters, but she'll probably have the older coalition. >> it's interesting to think when we have the evangelical vote. donald trump so far, people assumed it would naturally go to ted cruz. but the military rhetoric we've been hearing from all parties, it's definitely stronger on the right with donald trump saying i'm going to make the military the greatest and bring it back. but that means there's an assumption that it's not great as it stands. >> i will say the folks i talked to kind of took exception to that. they appreciated the enthusiasm of what he's saying, but they said, wait a minute, who says we're not the greatest military in the world. i think they want somebody who will understand their mission, give them what they need to do it, and if that means putting more finances -- but they're very interested in knowing how
you're going to make or keep the military the strongest in the world? how are you going to do it? >> i think there is a distinction between uniformed military and retired military. there is a large number of retired military around here, and i think that's particularly who marco rubio is trying to speak to, speaking about taking care of veterans, veterans services, believe up the military, referencing ronald reagan. i think he's speaking to retired voters as well as he's trying to speak to uniformed military. >> and the respect active media, at least the service members coming up now and joining, they're known as a country perpetually at war. that's different than, say, when you joined the service and what you were able to do in the navy. is there a difference when you talk to younger folks as opposed to the ones who are a little bit more hardened by service? >> there is a big difference. when i joined the navy in 1992, i didn't consider myself very political. i was very interested in the chain of command and the leadership of the military.
younger people joining the military today are much more political, they're more informed, and that door to civilian life doesn't close as tightly behind you. because of social media and technology, they're still in constant conversation with their parents and the people who might have been influential over their political views before they joined the service, and then they also have the mixture of the more senior leadership. definitely to answer your question among the older people, the people who maybe had a longer career or recently retired, they definitely tend to lead more republican. although they may refer to trump and did refer to trump as the lesser of all evils. they don't know that anybody in the high office of washington know what its like to forage for food, lose sleep and try to keep your life every day. an air forces veteran person put it best to me last night. he said, we didn't really see ourselves as fighting with the president but for each other. so they need to give them what
they need to fulfill their mission. >> trump leads in the gop state of virginia right now, and it seems like after tuesday the path for everybody else gets very narrow. >> that's right, it gets much harder. i actually think, though, that marco rubio has the opportunity of all the republicans to challenge virginia. he's got the highest favorability numbers in virginia. i think what rubio is trying to do is speak to evangelical voters through the national security message, trying to make some ground that way. we may be surprised at marco rubio's performance tomorrow in virginia even if he doesn't beat trump in virginia. >> tomorrow we'll tell the tale from norfolk university. katie, you're a great friend and a great analyst. thank you for the media work you did talking to the military members. we're going to continue our
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hi, everyone, i'm kate snow live at the harris county smokehouse in houston, texas. if tomorrow is super tuesday, then maybe you could call today manic monday. it is a wild one on the trail with 20 events across nine states, the republicans all looking up at donald trump. a strong showing by the frontrunner could mean a hard one for the other candidates. >> i say this to you without any hesitation or any glee. a vote for donald trump tomorrow is a vote for hillary clinton in november. >> and if you take ted cruz's word for it, tomorrow will dramatically narrow down the field. >> at the end of tomorrow,
donald trump is, in all likelihood, going to have a big chunk of delegates. and we are, i believe, going to have a big chunk of delegates. and i think everyone else will be way, way, way behind. at that point it will become abundantly clear this is a two-man race. >> but as it stands right now, trump is the man to beat. a new poll has donald trump leading nationally with nearly half, 49%, of vote. we have all of it covered in the republican war of words with katie tur and gabe gutierrez following trump and rubio in georgia. katie, let me start with you following donald trump. some excitement in the last hour -- i don't know if i should call it excitement, but a lot of people talking about an altercation between a reporter and one of the secret service guards there. >> yeah, i wasn't at this rally, but from what we're hearing, a time reporter got into it with the secret service agent as he was, i think, trying to leave the press pen. that's when some words were
exchanged by both, and it ended with the secret service agent body slamming this reporter. i can tell you a little bit about what it's like to be at trump rallies and the secret service and these pens. what they've been doing since the secret service started protecting donald trump, they've been penning the media, the press into this little caged area in the center of the room, and they've made it so reporters aren't allowed to leave about a half hour before donald trump gets in, and they're not allowed to leave after he finishes his speech. they're also not allowed to leave the rope line. it's unclear if the secret service is protecting them or if it's the campaign asking them to enforce them. we've asked a number of times and we've not had a clear picture why it's an issue of safety having the press roam the room. we even had an instance where a
reporter couldn't go to the bathroom without an escort from the secret service. between the press and the secret service who is there to protect the candidate, they don't actually work for the candidate, as we all know. they work for the american people and their salaries are paid by tax dollars. >> and tell me about what's happening on the trail today. so much back and forth, my head is spinning. >> reporter: there's been a lot of controversy and a lot of back and forth over the weekend. i'm sure gabe gutierrez can get into this as well, but marco rubio has really started to hit donald trump, getting personal in his attacks, also trying to paint him as a con man bringing up trump university, his bankruptcies, trying to say he's not as successful a businessman as he's claiming to be and he won't be able to create jobs the way donald trump is claiming. also a lot of controversy today for donald trump for what he said yesterday on cnn, not disavowing, not repudiating, not condemning david duke and the
kkk even though jake tapper asked him three times to do that. today he said he had a bad earpiece. it's all very curious that twice on thursday and friday when he was asked about david duke and the kkk, he disavowed it. in 2002, there was a video of him talking to matt lauer saying that david duke is a bigot and a racist and these are people you don't want to be associated with. even jeff sessions of alabama who endorsed him over the weekend is saying he needs to distance himself from the white supremacists, from the kkk, from david duke, all these people that seem to be supporting him. let's mention it's not donald trump's problem, essentially. it's not his fault if a white supremacist or somebody considered to be a racist supports him, endorses him. he can't control that. but the campaign certainly can distance themselves from it and
condemn it and say that they don't want that support. donald trump has done that a little bit, but many people think he needs to do much more before he goes into super tuesday tomorrow. >> all right, katie tur following donald trump's every move. let's turn to marco rubio now. he's visiting four states today, starting in tennessee this morning, finishing up in oklahoma tonight with stops in georgia and arkansas in between. nbc's gabe gutierrez is on the ride for all of that. he joins me now from atlanta where rubio wrapped up a rally just about an hour ago, and it was another feisty one. >> reporter: that's exactly right, kate. as katie tur mentioned, marco rubio going after donald trump, hanging over that kkk controversy that started yesterday and dragged into this morning. something interesting, though, marco rubio has been keeping such a frenetic pace, he's now losing his voice.
he's been hoarse at both campaign rallies he had today. he's been accompanied by nikki haley, that endorsement that helped propel him to second place there. she brought up the charleston shooting that happened last year and talked about it in the context of donald trump. take a listen. >> south carolina went through a terrible tragedy last year. and the kkk came to south carolina from out of state to protest on our state house grounds. [ booing ] >> we saw and looked at true hate in the eyes last year, in charleston. i will not stop until we fight a man that chooses not to disavow the kkk. that is not a part of our party, that's not who we want as president. we will not allow that in our country! >> reporter: she also went on to
say that she told marco rubio the same thing she tells her kids, that when a bully hits you, you hit back. indeed, rubio himself has been going after trump the last few days, getting personal in some of the attacks, talking about his hair, talking about his spray tan. today in his morning rally he talked about something else. at a time take a listen. >> we can't elect the dog that caught the car. get it? think about it. the dog is always barking at the car. what are you going to do when you catch that car? we can't risk it. >> should i be asking for nikki? >> reporter: so why the change in strategy? the rubio campaign says for a while they tried to rise above the fray and just talk about the democrats. if it comes to sinking to his level or giving these attacks, they feel they really need to
take him on so they can talk about substantive policy issues further down the line. the question now is, will this make a difference tomorrow on super tuesday and going forward? we've talked to many voters at these rallies and they say, look, while they're disappointed at the tone of the campaign and it's taken this shift, they are very excited to see marco rubio going after donald trump because they say under no circumstances, these voters feel, can donald trump be the republican nominee. so they are happy to see marco rubio going after him. now, again, a very frenetic pace. he has five rallies today in four separate states. tomorrow he heads to minnesota, which is a state his campaign feels it can do well before heading to miami tomorrow night. of course, looking forward to that march 15 primary in florida. that's his home state, and his campaign has said they will win there. obviously a very crucial state. the campaign, though, has high hopes for tomorrow even though donald trump, as you mentioned, kate, is doing very well in all these super tuesday states
except perhaps maybe texas. back to you. >> right, right. thank you, gabe gutierrez, and let's talk about texas. that is where ted cruz is today. he's actually campaigning here in texas. also our latest polls showing him in the lead here in texas. joining me now in houston is the republican lieutenant governor of texas, dan patrick. he chairs the cruz campaign here in the lone star state. thank you for having us in your state. nice to see you, lieutenant. >> nice to be here. i don't normally wear a suit to a barbecue place. i'm a little overdressed for great barbecue. >> we'll get you some ribs while you're here. your candidate is here in the state. donald trump has said he may win here. a campaign source says their focus is on getting people out to the polls for the trump camp, that they're going door knocking. we haven't seen a lot of evidence of that, but that's what they say they're doing, and here's what donald trump said this weekend. >> we're going to win so big. you know, we're leading in every single state, and we're almost leading in texas, and i have a
feeling we're going to win texas also. >> going to win texas, he says. >> he's been wrong about quite a few things during the campaign. he'll be wrong about this. ted will do very well tomorrow night. i think after, kate, tomorrow, i hope on wednesday morning marco rubio -- and look, i like john kasich and ben, they're all nice people. i'm not against anyone, i'm for ted. they can't win. there is no path to victory for them. the polls clearly show if ted were to be out of the race, which the establishment is trying to work for rubio to make that happen, 75% of ted's voters go to trump. it's handed on a silver platter to trump if ted is out. ted is the only one who has beaten trump. he's the only one who can beat him head to head. marco may win a tiny one tomorrow but i don't think he'll win a state. he'll be behind in the delegate count. it's time for rubio to get out on wednesday morning, do the right thing for the party and the country.
once you get to a two-man race, ted against donald, then it takes 50% to win a state. right now donald could win states on the 15th when it begins winner take all by simply getting 38 or 40% of the vote. and that's allowing him to win states that maybe he wouldn't if it was head to head. >> i've met a lot of voters here in texas, and some who are trump supporters, who tell me, i want trump because he's going to get things done. ted cruz keeps promising to go and fight against the machine in washington. he's not going to work with people across the aisle, he's not going to get anything accomplished. >> i'm not going to say negative things about other candidates, i want to talk about ted. when he ran for the senate here in texas, he made the promise to take on the establishment, stand and fight. that's what he did. he will repeal obamacare, he will secure the border, he will take away common core. >> how do you do that when
you're not president at all? >> how quickly people knock on the door and say, mr. president, i was with you. donald has no reelationship wit them at all. ted is the only conservative we have in this race. republicans have been looking for a strong christian conservative for a long time, and we haven't had that candidate. now we have one, and look, i understand the anger out there. the one message being sent from donald trump that the republican party better pay attention to is they better get their act together in washington, d.c. we're seeing it on the democratic side as well. people are fed up. when i look at donald trump, he's held the opposite position for his entire life and the supreme court is so crucial. there's only one candidate i know who will select a guaranteed original like scalia for every appointment. i have no idea who trump would choose. >> you're a former newscaster, sportscaster, you own a radio station here, you understand the
media inside-out. you're also a member of, fair to say, a conservative part of your party. some might say you sort of laid the ground for someone like donald trump to rise up. you know, you're part of that movement that's allowed him to attract so much attention. >> i really think what's laid the groundwork for him has been barack obama, who has destroyed this country. he's created a divided race, he's ruined our economy, ruined our health care. he won't identify our enemies. i could go down the list. barack obama created both bernie sanders and donald trump in many ways. and the grassroots is fed up. and i understand -- look, i understand the appeal that donald comes in, reality tv celebrity kind of guy. but we're voting for the president of the united states and again, i go back to the supreme court. we're one vote away from losing our rights to own guns. one vote away from losing religious liberty, one vote away from expanding abortion in this country. again, i have no idea who donald trump would appoint to the supreme court, but i know ted
cruz will appoint the right conservative so we can keep a conservative court. people need to really think through this. we're now down to the time to make a decision, and that's why rubio and kasich and carson need to exit the race on wednesday. >> a one-word answer. if cruz sdidoesn't win in texas does he exit the race? >> he won't lose techs xas. he'll do just fine tomorrow. >> thank you for being with us. appreciate it. much more coming up this hour at the harris county smokehouse. we're here with more than 5,000 latino voters. up next, my conversation with one of those voters on why he's supporting donald trump. we got another one. i have an orc-o-gram for an "owen." that's me. ♪ you should hire stacy drew. ♪ ♪ she wants to change the world with you. ♪ ♪ she can program jet engines to talk and such. ♪
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here in texas, organizers say they expect a big increase in the number of latino voters this super tuesday, and while most of them do vote for democrats, the last exit polls here in this state show that one in 10 republican primary voters were latino. and they're not all voting for their home state senator, ted cruz. trump is attracting some hispanic voters like juan gomez, who i recently spoke with. his family goes back generations in the state. he's a tejano singer, he owns a flooring company, and he already cast his vote during early voting here. juan, so you already voted, right? >> right. >> and for? >> i voted for donald trump. >> when you first told me that, you were a little reluctant to tell me. >> well, you know, there's a lot of hispanics who are spiteful or whatever about donald trump, and i like donald trump for several reasons. number one, i think we need
somebody to manage the country, and he's a businessman and very successful businessman, but the other thing is that he tells it like it is. >> what about the wall? >> i think at one point, you know, we need something that will stop the influx of people coming into the united states. i think it's, you know, the way the economies are in our two different countries, i think we can manage the people that are here. i don't know -- >> but you want to stop the flow of people. >> the flow needs to stop, yes. someone who is coming into the united states from mexico, they say, let's go to a northie. they're looking for a better way of life. obviously mexico is not providing that life for them. it's fine, but, unfortunately, there is a lot of bad habits that we have in our society. we supply needs for these people. >> the government? >> yes. >> you told me you're a compassionate man, you're a christian, you're a man of
faith? >> i'm very compassionate. i walk with the lord, but there are certain things that, you know, are important for our country. you know, it's like when you run a business. a business has to be healthy. our nation is not healthy right now. >> juan gomez sharing his thoughts with us about donald trump. ted cruz, meantime, holding his second press availability of the day, talking with the press. he's in san antonio along with rick perry, the former governor of this state. let's listen in. >> i don't trust him, and i think when you come down to the trust issue, there is one person that we know who will be that consistent conservative, whether it's dealing with the second amendment, whether it's dealing with life, whether it's dealing with our veterans, and that is senator cruz, and i am proud to be standing here with you. >> thank you. >> today is texas' day. tomorrow texans can unify and deliver the state of texas for our very own ted cruz.
texas has more delegates than any other state. we can turn this race and ensure that ted cruz leaves tomorrow with the wind at his back. that's exactly why we have unified leadership campaigning with ted cruz across the entire state of texas. this race now boils down to only two candidates. there's ted cruz and donald trump. there's only one candidate left in the race who is a true conservative, who represents texas values. and that man is ted cruz. and we want to continue the conservative values that have made texas and the united states so great. texans need to do everything they can not just to go vote, but to get others to go out and vote and support ted cruz to be our next president.
senator cruz? >> governor, thank you so much. it is an incredible honor, it is humbling, to be standing here with two extraordinary men, governor rick perry, governor greg abbott, both strong, conservative, principaled leaders. both men who led the state of texas, who presided over an incredible explosion of jobs and economic opportunity. there is a reason why people from all over the country has come to texas, because we understand that when you lift the burdens on small businesses, when you lift the taxes, when you lift the regulations and you allow small businesses to prosper that it brings incredible economic prosperity. we need to follow that same model nationally. if i'm elected president, we will repeal every word of obamacare. we will pass a simple flat tax and abolish the irs, and we will see unbelievable economic growth. small businesses growing, wages going up, young people coming out of school with two, three,
four, five job opportunities. tomorrow super tuesday is, i believe, the most important day of this entire primary. texas and 10 other states will be voting tomorrow, and it is an opportunity for us to stand together and decide, do we want a washington deal, someone who will compromise our values, compromise away our constitutional rights, will grow the debt, will grow washington, or do we want a true fiscal conservative? i believe the state of texas wants a proven fiscal conservative and i hope to see that tomorrow. >> after tomorrow, do you think if any candidate who doesn't win their state tomorrow needs to leave the campaign? >> that's a decision every candidate has to make. it's clear if you cannot win your state and you cannot amass delegates, you're not going to be the republican nominee for president. i do think the entire primary process is a winning process.
we started with 17 candidates. we're now down to just a handful. nationally 65% of republicans recognize that donald trump is not the best candidate for us to nominate against hillary clinton. that if donald trump is the nominee, hillary, in all like likeliho likelihood, wins. that donald agrees with hillary on far too many issues. if you're a social conservative, donald trump agrees with hillary in support of planned parenthood, and for most of his life has supported partial birth abortion. if you're a fiscal conservative, donald trump agrees with hillary and barack obama's support of the wall street bailout, the t.a.r.p. bailout. and donald trump agrees with bernie sanders, that obamacare should be expanded to make it socialized medicine to put the federal government in charge of your and my health care and every place on earth we've had health care. it's the government deciding whether you get that hip replacement, whether you get that knee replacement.
if you are a national conservative, donald trump agrees with hillary clinton in support of john kerry. in fact, donald trump supported john kerry against george w. bush. and donald trump agrees with hillary clinton that america should be neutral between i ssrl and the palestinians. i disagree with that. if i am president, america will not be neutral. we will stand una positivel j aa positively jetically against hillary clinton. there is only one candidate who can beat donald trump, and that is us. we are in super tuesday states all across the country, so i want to say, if you're someone thinking about supporting another candidate, there are a lot of good people in this race, people who are friends of mine, people who have respect. but we are the only campaign that has a shot at beating donald trump on super tuesday, and if you don't want to see
donald trump as the nominee, then i ask you to join us and stand with us. and if that happens, if conservatives stand together, we'll have a good result. >> the crowd there behind ted cruz as he gets ready to go to an event in san antonio, texas just across the state from where we are. joining me now in houston is republican strategist former gop chairman and former adviser to senator rand paul's campaign -- what did i say -- presidential campaign. steve, good to see you again. >> good to see you. >> ted cruz expressing lots of confidence about tomorrow night. you look at the polls, it's only about a 13-point spread and the latest poll in texas showing ted cruz up but donald trump 13 points behind. are you confident as you look at it that ted cruz will be able to lock up texas tomorrow night? >> i actually think ted cruz
already won texas, because half our vote is in, about 800,000 votes. those votes started coming in in january when ted cruz had a bigger lead, so he was able to put a lot of votes in the bank already, and i don't see anything happening that changes that equation. >> there may even be votes in there for jeb bush, right, because people in texas started voting before he was out of the race. >> i can tell you there is at least one vote for rand paul. >> that would be yours. >> yes, ma'am. >> let me ask you about a lot of talk that people were saying they're watching the gop fall apart. the headline in the "washington post" this morning is the republican party's implosion over donald trump's candidacy has arrived. as a former chairman of the party here in texas, is that what you think is happening? is the party falling apart? >> it's not falling apart, but i'm concerned about the tone, i'm concerned about the negativity, and i'm concerned about the long-term damage. but i'm also part of the reagan 4 fights. there's certainly time to put
this back together but these fights are not helpful. >> senator mitch mcconnell is planning out already how to put distance between a potential donald trump nominee and candidates for the senate and the house because there is this risk that maybe donald trump can't, you know, keep control of the house and senate if he is the nominee. do you think that that's at risk if donald trump is your guy? >> well, the senate is already at risk. we may lose the senate even if we have a strong republican nominee. but i don't think it's helpful right now to talk about running away from our nominee when we don't know who our nominee is. one of the things as party chairman you try to do is bring all your factions together. i'm a republican. i'll support ted cruz, i'll support marco rubio, i'll support donald trump. >> i was going to ask, are you going to support donald trump if you have to? >> yes, because i'll take a capitalist over a socialist any day of the week. >> tomorrow night in terms of a
handicap, where do you think we'll be, maybe two days from now. are we going to be in a whole different place on wednesday? >> ted cruz has to win texas. his best other shots are arkansas and oklahoma. marco rubio has to beat ted cruz in a number of other states. trump can't get too far ahead. the magic number is 282. if donald trump gets 282 delegates, that means he's accumulated over 50% of the delegates up to now. if you hold trump under 50% and you do that going forward, you'll have a contestant convention. >> what's that number again? >> 282. >> all right. we'll hold you to that. great to see you again. with super tuesday looming now just hours away, candidates have been digging deep into their campaign chests to get their messages on the tv in those 12 states where primary voting is taking place tomorrow. who is spending what, how far do those dollars go? here to break it down, msnbc political editor mark murray is with us. mark, i can't get away from the ads. i turn on the tv this morning and they are everywhere. who is spending the most and why
might that matter tomorrow night? >> the reason why, kate, this is do or die time for all the candidates, particular physical you're ted cruz or marco rubio, because you realize you want to run up and accrue as many delegates as possible. ted cruz, texas a must-win state for him. he needs to do very well in the south, and marco rubio realizes he needs to maximize all the delegates he can. as far as the money goes, $23 million has been spent in the 12 total super tuesday states for tomorrow, and leading the pack on the republican side has been ted cruz and his outside groups that have been backing him. $6.2 million on ted cruz's behalf. marco rubio checks in at second at $3.5 million. and then donald trump at 1.1 million. he hasn't had to run as many ads as ted cruz and marco rubio. and on the democratic side, you have hillary clinton with the lead at 6.4 million among 11 states. bernie sanders is just a million dollars behind, around $5 mill
kwh ion, but he is concentrating his states around vermont and massachusetts. >> sanders is on that list, but it's really ads that, as you said, are aimed at oklahoma. if you look at the rest of the list, you have clinton spending 1.1 million, cruz spending a million. these are pro rubio, so these may be pacs i'm talking about. pro-rubio is 959,000, and pro-trump is down to 378,000, which isn't such a big number, but i think that's more than trump is spending in most super tuesday states, isn't it? >> it is. it represents about a third of all the tv spending in the super tuesday states. again, the reason why these campaigns are spending so much money, particularly in a state like texas, has to do with the fact that on the republican side, there is a 20-20 side
against rubio. when you see people at 16 or 17%, getting to the 20s is everything. you're not going to get a delegate out of texas or other states that have these thresholds as well. again, this is why everyone is throwing all the money they can, because they realize that if they don't maximize their delegate allocations going forward after super tuesday, it could be very, very difficult, kate. >> for people not in the know, you've got to be 20% in the gop here to get any delegates at all. mark, the last thing. the superpac that supports rubio has a new ad out today fresh off the presses about the comments of donald trump on david duke and the ku klux klan. let's play a little bit of that and then talk about it. >> i asked donald trump three
times if he would disavow the support of david duke and the ku klux klan. >> well, i have to look at the group. >> trump refuses to denounce the kkk. think about that.
for president? >> ronald reagan made us believe it was morning in america again. well, now the children of the reagan revolution are ready to assume the mantel of leadership. >> mark, it was a quick turn. how quickly are they trying to get that on the air, where, and where
is it going out, who is going to see it? >> as soon as possible, kate, and they're trying to get it in all the states. i can tell you the rubio superpac has been running anti-trump ads in virginia and florida, which is really the must-win state for marco rubio. they are trying to throw the kitchen sink right now at donald trump. the question s we hais, we have hours to go until super tuesday, and maybe more importantly for marco rubio, he's got two weeks before that all-important florida primary on march 15. here in texas, they have open primaries, which means republicans can vote in the democratic primary and vice
versa, but turnout has never been something to brag about in the past. just 11% in the 2012 gop primaries, and as low as 5.6% for the democratic primaries back in 2004. but this year, you've already heard it, early voting here in texas already breaking records. is this the year that turns things around, and which candidates could it help the most, coming up. everyone connec. right now at at&t, buy one get one free on our most popular smartphones. no matter how you hang out, share every minute of it. buy one get one free on our most popular smartphones. and right now, get up to $650 in credits per line to help you switch to at&t. as we age, certain nutrients longer than ever. become especially important.
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kristen, how is it going? >> reporter: it's going well. the clinton campaign feeling very good about its chances heading into super tuesday. the big reason for that, kate, is because of what happened over the weekend. she far exceeded expectations in south carolina. she was hoping to beat senator sanders there by 20 points. she blew past that. she beat him by nearly 50 points. she got close to 90% of african-american supporters, and she's hoping that will propel her into a strong finish through super tuesday. if you look at the numbers, she is heading into tomorrow in a very strong position. just take virginia, for example, kate. according to the latest monmouth university poll, secretary clinton leads here in this state 60 to 33%. then consider some of the other states. georgia, texas, tennessee. she leads senator sanders by a 2-1 margin. so again, the campaign feeling very good, and that's being reflected in secretary clinton's comments throughout the day. she is clearly emboldened,
turning her sights to the general election, taking on frontrunner donald trump and the entire gop field. take a listen to what she had to say earlier. >> every one of them still left running on the republican side is pedaling the same snake oil. slash taxes on the wealthy. in fact, they even argue that the problem with the great recession in wall street was that wall street was regulated too much. they make that argument with a straight face. >> reporter: now, clinton campaign officials tell me that they are in the process of trying to determine how they would take on donald trump if she does win the nomination. he's an unconventional candidate, and i'm told by my sources they are coming up with an unconventional way to take him on. one of the things that continues to cast a cloud over secretary clinton's campaign, of course, those e-mails from her private
server when she was secretary of state, the final batch expected to be released today. of course, before she can take on donald trump she has to win the nomination, and we will know a lot more about how she's doing on that front tomorrow. kate? >> all right, kristen welker following hillary clinton's campaign. kristin, thank you so much. shifting back to ted cruz who just wrapped up a briefing with reporters. we were watching part of that and then had to leave. let's check in with hallie jackson and she can tell us what we missed. >> hi, kate. i want to highlight a couple pieces of news that came out of that rally that bernie sanders just held. he referenced a report out in buzz feed that nbc news has not confirmed indicating there may have been some sort of conversation off the record between the "new york times" and donald trump in which trump made comments about immigration that have been inconsistent with his public statements. again, this is from this buzz feed report, cruz referencing
that and calling on trump to allow the "new york times" to release the transcript of that discussion and to do so before super tuesday. this is something cruz pivoted to a couple times before that news conference. clearly it is something he wants to bring up, he wants to raise questions about this in a way to try to slow down trump before super tuesday, before these 11 states get out and vote or caucus for republicans. the other interesting bit of news, i asked the senator whether he is preparing for contested convention, kate, given he's talked about how important super tuesday is, given we've heard about other candidates talking about moving forward to a contested convention. cruz's answer was very simple. he said no. a contested convention -- i'm paraphrasing -- he essentially said the contested convention is a pipe dream looking to stop someone who will be the nominee. cruz says this will come down to a two-man race on wednesday morning, that on wednesday
morning americans will wake up and find it will be ted cruz and donald trump. that's the jstrategy of every other republican in this race, both rubio and cruz vying to be that trump conservative. kate? >> i don't know if you can hear me, but i'm looking up that buzz feed report. you're talking about potentially an audio recording that the "new york times" may have that cruz thinks ought to be released to show what donald trump said. have i got that right? >> that's exactly right, yep. his positions on immigration, cruz talking about it at this media rally a couple minutes ago, whether donald trump is saying things to the "new york times" that he wouldn't say to voters. again, it is unclear what is happening with this, but it's something cruz has pounced on very, very quick skpl hand has central part of his discussion today in going after trump in an
attempt to stop it. >> colorado is on the super tuesday map tomorrow. it's one of four states that, of course, have legalized marijuana for recreational use, and the issue of legalization is sure to be on voters' minds. let me bring in msnbc's tony dekopol. he is in denver, colorado. tony? >> reporter: how you doing, kate? as you know, a majority of americans support legal marijuana. the nfl, to give you some context, it rooifivalled the nf. in colorado the very first state to legalize and be seen for a very important caucus with the democrats tomorrow. i want to bring in andy williams. he's the owner of this grow room, the owner of medicine man, one of the first and largest dispenseryes here in colorado. this is the first election since legalization. what are you as an industry looking for in a candidate? >> as an industry, we're looking for a candidate just like
anybody else. we're looking for a candidate that's going to protect our homeland, that's going to provide a legal system that's safe and fair and provide the infrastructure for business and get out of the way and let us build this country back to former greatness. specifically for candidates, it's about a business. over 50,000 people in this country live in states that have laws regarding cannabis and yet we don't have banking. change those rules to allow us to act as a regular businejust anybody else. >> one of the amazing things about colorado is they seizure pass -- surpassed those candidates. >> in colorado we're used to this being legal. we have this freedom now. unless a candidate comes and says, we're going to take it away, they're going to look at it like they would any candidate. should a candidate threaten to take this away, it's going to
have big backlash for them. >> you're a business guy, you employ a lot of people. you must have had business calls. tell me about them. >> not yet. we have somebody on the phone waiting. however, i tell you what, there are a lot of these businesses maturing. there are businesses. there are groups now forming that are really looking out for the business interests and a lot of people have involved. they're looking to build these bridges, form the campaigns, to help you understand it's a growing industry. >> if you were going for the democratic race tomorrow, who would it be, bernie or clinton? >> clinton. >> and there's a lot of heavy influence back at the polls. back to you. >> i think bernie sanders is the only one who has really addressed it much, right? >> no, hillary clinton has as well. they both said it's important to let states continue to experiment and let business owners like this continue to ply
their trade unless something very good happens or something very bad happens. either full scale legalization nationwide or pulling back to something on a smaller scale. >> all right, tony dekopol clearly in colorado. thanks very much, tony. chris jansing is on the other side of the country along with kyle perry. they've traveled the country ahead of super tuesday getting to know the issues they're concerned about before they head out to the polls tomorrow. let's start with chris jansing. she's en route to richmond, virginia. chris, what kind of younger voters are you talking to? i know you've been kind of focused in on the youth vote. >> we had an opportunity this morning when we were in athens, which is, of course, the university of georgia, to talk to the head of the clubs of the republican and of the democrats, and remember that kid who came up to john kasich? he had been going through a really hard time and asked him for a hug? he came and talked to us as well, but we talked to students on campus as we have been throughout.
millennials who are defined for this purpose, as 18 to 29-year-olds are a third of the voters. but they don't usually vote in those numbers. we saw bigger numbers in 2008, 2012. so far in these primaries, they are getting up to those levels. so i was curious about enthusiasm on the campus of the university of georgia on a scale of 1 to 10. here's what they told me. are they as many millennials are favoring bernie sanders and what is the enthusiasm level? >> i would say within our majority there is a fairly even splint between sanders supporters and hillary clinton supporters. but i would say we're both really happy to have two strong candidates who stand for progressive values, and no matter who we're voting for in the primary tomorrow, we're excited to support either candidate come november. >> really quickly, amber, a scale of 1 to 10, enthusiasm level on the republican side. >> 10. all of our students are so excited. i'm incredibly proud to lead an
organization that has so many students who are so passionate and so excited. >> we have found a lot of students who are really engaged in this. and just to give you one example of why the millennial vote is to important. in massachusetts, which is a place bernie sanders thinks he can make a move on hillary clinton, it's a closer race there for him than most of the states that are coming up. he has a 42-point advantage on her. and given the kinds of numbers she had in the south, for example, what we saw with black owners in south carolina, millennials become critically important to him and as well to donald trump. we'll be talking in virginia tomorrow, millennials and other folks. we've been in a little traffic in charlotte. we're moving a little more now. we've gone 1800 miles, we're going 400 miles today, so i expect the traffic will actually clear up. >> i was looking out the window. it doesn't look like you're
moving very fast, chris. >> no. >> safe trafvels as always. let's turn it over to cal perry. cal, on nbc's super tuesday road trip. cal is moving right along. what did you hear from voters in georgia today? >> reporter: we've been taking a straw poll of african-american voters, ever since alabama, really, the day after hillary clinton sort of had that sweeping victory in south carolina, and what we're hearing more and more is that the clinton family is sort of an established name amongst the african-american community. it's a trusted name. and that's playing really well here, especially in the south. people seem really highly motivated to get out and to vote. we spoke to a church group in alabama and some folks in georgia this morning. and what we're hearing over and over again is education, really important to that community, obviously, and jobs, as well. but there's that kind of inherent trust in hillary clinton, because, of course, her husband, bill clinton, president
for eight years, and represented the south very well. so that's what we're hearing over and over again. and when it comes to turnout, that's another thing that everyone is talking about. it doesn't really matter where you are on the spectrum, whether it's cruz on the right or bernie on the far left, this is an historic election. people are very highly motivated on either end of that spectrum. so i think we can continue to expect that the voting numbers are going to be smashing records. we had, and we know this from places like tennessee, where more than 50,000 people have already early voted in comparison to the election four years ago, where there was early voting. so i think that's what people are really talking about. there's a buzz around the country, as we approach super tuesday tomorrow, of course, and i think that's only going to continue into the general election, kate. >> cal, i'm just going to say one thing to you, and this is on a complete different subject, you and i have been having a little food war over where we are. fried pickles. >> reporter: fried pickles. you got fried pickles?
you know, we're stuck in the car. so we're just stuck with a starburst. it's pretty lame, i know. >> cal perry, you can follow that on twitter, by the way. we've been having a joke over that. more than a million texans have already cast their vote for the candidate ahead of tomorrow's primary. we mentioned early voting here. msnbc's jacob soboroff is north of me. he's in ft. worth, texas, where he spoke with the county's election administrator. jacob, what did he tell you? >> reporter: kate, he told me a lot of people are voting early. all of these things that i am walking between right now are voting machines. early voting machines. they've all already been used and returned here after in-person early voting. they've already set a record high in this county, 140,000 people voted early according to frank phillips, the election administrator. i spent some one-on-one exclusive time with him, talked about the million registered voters in this county and what we can expect tomorrow. this is what he had to say. >> so, frank, you run elections for this whole place. tarrant county, right?
>> that's correct. we have about a million registered voters, just shy of 700 voting precincts. >> what are these things? these things we're looking at right here. >> these are election cards. on election day, this piece of equipment will go to a polling site and it contains the election equipment, their ballots are going to vote, all the supplies they'll need to run a polling site. >> and you told me that early voting is through the roof here, huh? >> it's through the roof, we've had the largest republican turnout that we've ever had in tarrant county. compared to 2008, they're up about 114%. >> 114% since 2008? >> over 2008. >> and what kind of numbers are we talking about? >> it's about 125,000 have voted early. now, if history holds true, we're probably looking at election day of anywhere from 150 to 200,000. >> at the beginning of this process, when you check in with the poll clerk, before you get to any of this, you'll have to show voter i.d. in texas, right?
>> right. >> so you come in, what are the acceptable forms of i.d.? >> there are several, your driver's license, texas i.d., texas conceal and carry license, a passport, those kinds of instruments. . >> school i.d.? >> no. >> no, no school i.d.s. >> wait a minute, julia roberts, tommy lee jones, denzel washington and drew bledsoe are on the ballot? >> well, we're training. >> i'd vote for any of those. >> and it's all counted here? >> yep. >> tarrant county as a whole, this county seems to be a microcosm of the state, as a whole. so when you look at the vote here, it often reflects what happens statewide, correct? >> correct, so if you look at the results here on election night, you might have a good idea of what could happen statewide? >> i think that would be a good bet. >> don't forget, new student i.d.s, but those other forms are acceptable if you live in texas. these are the last remaining
mobile polling places to be picked up. the republican ones on this side and the democratic ones over here. she's doing her last-minute business right now. i'll be talking about this a lot more in the next hour. actually on facebook, on the nbc facebook page. >> there's so many questions people have. maybe a simple question, jacob, but when do polls open here tomorrow? how long is that voting going to go on in realtime tomorrow? >> that was a rookie mistake. i can't believe i left that out of the piece. 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., kate. they'll be open for those 12 hours. and afterwards, tomorrow night on msnbc, we'll be back here in the election headquarters, monitoring the results and the actual votes as they come in. >> fantastic. and that was not a rookie mistake. i just wondered. thanks so much, jacob. appreciate it. that is going to do it for us, from this hour. the harris county smokehouse here in texas. steve kornacki will pick up our coverage, up next. i will be back from texas with more tomorrow on super tuesday in the lone star state.
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